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Offline Jaynek

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« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2011, 05:19:52 PM »
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    Was St. John Bosco being unkind and unfair when he sent these kinds of poisonous men and boys back out to the street? Did he have a psychiatric degree? Do you think he didn’t understand his duty?

     Nar. Soc. looks for sympathizers. (enablers). This encourages them more so than participating in the trifle conversations.

    On one hand, I am glad that you think this Narc. Soc 101 is “nonsense” because that tells me you have not had to deal with these very dangerous people. It’s what makes you a loving person. On the other hand, not understanding this “nonsense” makes you vulnerable.

     We are all different with our own talents and understanding of things. When I write this “nonsense” it is with kindness and fairness. I am attacking no one, I am educating everyone.


    No offense, but I see no reason to think that you have the sanctity or wisdom of St. John Bosco.  If your analysis of Nonno were correct, you should not be engaging in discussions with him or talking about him. You would be playing right into the problem with your warnings about how dangerous he is.

    I find the topics that Nonno tends to discuss rarely interest me.  I would barely notice him if it weren't for all the posts talking about him.  I do not see how he is dangerous to me.


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    « Reply #46 on: July 03, 2011, 05:23:13 PM »
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    If your analysis of Nonno were correct, you should not be engaging in discussions with him or talking about him.


    I don't recall Sheep having done either of these things.
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    « Reply #47 on: July 03, 2011, 05:38:54 PM »
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    If your analysis of Nonno were correct, you should not be engaging in discussions with him or talking about him.


    I don't recall Sheep having done either of these things.


    Perhaps I am not following the discussion properly, but I understand all these comments about "narc socs" to be a description of Nonno according to Sheep.

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    « Reply #48 on: July 03, 2011, 05:58:16 PM »
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     I do not see how he is dangerous to me.


    I am glad you shared this with me.

    Narc soc. tell half truths, cause confusion, fix the confusion to look like a hero, all for   a fix or to fill up the "empty shell".

    In their path they leave much collateral damage.

     This Narc Soc. behavior interferes with cultivating the TRUTH on this forum.

    It is dangerous to your soul.

    the smart sheep

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    « Reply #49 on: July 03, 2011, 06:11:10 PM »
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    No offense, but I see no reason to think that you have the sanctity or wisdom of St. John Bosco.


    I may be incorrect in my reading of sheep's words, but I don't think he claimed to possess either, ma'am.  IMO, he was not even trying to imply such a thing.  His point, as I understand it, is that kindness and fairness are not incompatible with firmness, etc.

    The fact is that if Nonno is who I and Mater (among others) think he is, he has already been kicked off this site at least three times.  Time alone will tell, of course...
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    « Reply #50 on: July 03, 2011, 06:14:21 PM »
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     I do not see how he is dangerous to me.


    I am glad you shared this with me.

    Narc soc. tell half truths, cause confusion, fix the confusion to look like a hero, all for   a fix or to fill up the "empty shell".

    In their path they leave much collateral damage.

     This Narc Soc. behavior interferes with cultivating the TRUTH on this forum.

    It is dangerous to your soul.

    the smart sheep


    There is no reason to think that anyone here is a "narc soc" so this is irrelevant.  

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    « Reply #51 on: July 03, 2011, 06:16:59 PM »
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    The fact is that if Nonno is who I and Mater (among others) think he is, he has already been kicked off this site at least three times.  Time alone will tell, of course...


    Come on, grammar hack!

    It's Mater and I...

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    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #52 on: July 03, 2011, 06:19:25 PM »
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    No offense, but I see no reason to think that you have the sanctity or wisdom of St. John Bosco.


    I may be incorrect in my reading of sheep's words, but I don't think he claimed to possess either, ma'am.  IMO, he was not even trying to imply such a thing.  His point, as I understand it, is that kindness and fairness are not incompatible with firmness, etc.

    The fact is that if Nonno is who I and Mater (among others) think he is, he has already been kicked off this site at least three times.  Time alone will tell, of course...
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    I understand Sheep to be claiming to have the ability to identify a person as a "narc soc".  When asked if he is qualified to make this diagnosis he says that St. John Bosco was not qualified either.  Sheep is not a psychologist and I doubt that he is a Saint.  I see no reason to take what he says about this seriously.


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    « Reply #53 on: July 03, 2011, 06:36:30 PM »
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  • Why isn't this thread locked? It's run its course and serves no purpose.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    « Reply #54 on: July 03, 2011, 07:05:30 PM »
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    I understand Sheep to be claiming to have the ability to identify a person as a "narc soc".  When asked if he is qualified to make this diagnosis he says that St. John Bosco was not qualified either.  Sheep is not a psychologist and I doubt that he is a Saint.  I see no reason to take what he says about this seriously.


    I am not claiming to be anything. I am sticking to this Narc Soc 101 lesson(s) because I came to this forum for the TRUTH.

     To leave this poisonous head of the tick intact will interfere with the TRUE message.

    Extracting the head, as hard as it may be, will benefit all. Leaving the head will cause more confusion. It is worth the battle. It has to be done. Its a lot of work so  do not get discouraged. It can be done.

    And I am determined to have a place where TRUTH can be discussed.

    So, I feel it is very important to educate others in this way. These are tangible ways to handle this problem. This is what I have to offer.

     I do appreciate some of your comments because many are very unaware of how to recognize a Narc. Soc. and how to deal with one.  I am sure this thread helped others to see the importance of removing the poison. Thank you for the opportunity.

    I am going to keep on keeping on,

    Sheep

     

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    « Reply #55 on: July 03, 2011, 07:46:49 PM »
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     I do appreciate some of your comments because many are very unaware of how to recognize a Narc. Soc. and how to deal with one.  I am sure this thread helped others to see the importance of removing the poison. Thank you for the opportunity.

    I am going to keep on keeping on,
     


    You keep repeating the same meaningless phrases and I see nothing the least bit helpful about them.  Even if you actually knew what you were talking about, you are not communicating anything.  It is just a lot of words about tics and poison and truth.  



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    « Reply #56 on: July 03, 2011, 07:49:38 PM »
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    He couldn't discuss ...XYZ... if people weren't responding to him.

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    « Reply #57 on: July 03, 2011, 08:32:50 PM »
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  • Jaynek, you're not being charitable. What did sheep do? Furthermore, this is not the place for that subject. I started this thread to have Raoul answer an important question I had for him, yet I'd imagine he was turned off by the thread due to the off-topic discussions you and Nonno started and saw no point in answering my question since the thread was already derailed.  No hard feelings or anything, but we have to stay on-topic on threads from now on.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #58 on: July 03, 2011, 08:57:55 PM »
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     I do appreciate some of your comments because many are very unaware of how to recognize a Narc. Soc. and how to deal with one.  I am sure this thread helped others to see the importance of removing the poison. Thank you for the opportunity.

    I am going to keep on keeping on,
     


    You keep repeating the same meaningless phrases and I see nothing the least bit helpful about them.  Even if you actually knew what you were talking about, you are not communicating anything.  It is just a lot of words about tics and poison and truth.  



    I will make this last communication on this thread more meaningful to you.

    Do not be an enabler.
    It makes it difficult, for those who have been dealing with this problem for a long time, to resolve.
     
    God Speed,
    Sheep


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    « Reply #59 on: July 03, 2011, 09:59:06 PM »
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    We could discuss some interesting issues, with Nonno being sympathetic to Fr. Cekada, but Nonno only wants to discuss small or trifling matters.


    He couldn't discuss trifling matters if people weren't responding to him.  I don't buy this "it's all Nonno's fault" approach.  Everyone, and I include myself, who contributes to these trifling discussions shares whatever guilt there is.


    There isn't any "guilt" here. The point is that Nonno came here to defend Fr. Cekada in a very indirect and argumentative RS kinda way.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil