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« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2008, 06:49:02 PM »
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    « Reply #106 on: September 10, 2008, 03:00:05 PM »
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    « Reply #107 on: September 10, 2008, 03:12:33 PM »
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    • Infallible Constitution of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM#4 and #6

    One cannot even doubt one word of this Infallible docuмent proclaimed under the Primacy of the Roman Pontiff( the first of whom received the Pallium directly from Jesus) without committing a heresy.

    Possibly Classicom could inform us if he swears by this docuмent and if not what is there specifically in the docuмent that he finds objectionable.
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    « Reply #108 on: September 10, 2008, 04:36:13 PM »
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    • No, Pere Hyacinth certainly does not seem to be too keen on the dogma of papal infallibility.

    The question then becomes: Who in Hell is Pere Hyacinth?

    He was a French heretic who left the priesthood to shack up with some woman. The Little Flower offered her final Communion to effect his conversion. She uncharacteristically flopped this time out. With a vicious child killer she was a roaring success. I think that there's a lesson in that for all of us.

    Then the question becomes: Why in the name of all that is holy should we quote Pere Loyson as though he were a Doctor or a Saint or a Catholic?

    It is like shooting trout in a bucket to demonstrate that what really bugs the opponents of Papal Infallibility is the existence of God and the establishment by His Son of a Holy Church with authority to bind and loose.
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    « Reply #109 on: September 10, 2008, 05:29:22 PM »
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    • And as Catholics we are bound to accept every word of above Constitution.

    If Classicom doesn't believe in the Constitution of Holy Church--which he has the right to do under the concept of free will, what exactly does he believe in? The Bible alone(Sola Scriptua)? we all should know by now that this is a heresy. Does he believe in the тαℓмυd or the Koran?

    Please enlighten us.
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    « Reply #110 on: September 10, 2008, 08:21:39 PM »
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    • Check out this free book link. Loyson is Clint Eastwood on Catholic steroids. The Church has routinely chewed and spit out good people that tell the truth. They called Christ the devil, so Loyson is in good company. I hope Christ will give him a pardon for bucking the Pope and standing tall for what he perceived as the truth.  What have all the billion or so "Catholics" done about paganism as promoted at Assisi in 1986 and reaffirmed in 2007 by Pope Ratzinger?  Do you really believe cowardice will be rewarded by a place in Heaven?

        It would be nice to send a copy of this link to all the victims of  church pedophilia. I think they would be comforted to know that that there were voices that  tried to clear up the insanity of forced celibacy. Another recent hero was Fr. Enrique Rueda , author of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Network. His book in the early 1980's warned of the seminaries being infested with promiscuity, but he was treated as the enemy in the American Catholic Church. He wrote a column for the Wanderer for a number of years, but they have no idea of his where abouts today. There are many other examples, but we have a history of trashing a lot of good people.

        What about accountability of today's bishops and Pope?  When Delaware's own Joe Biden talks about public and private faith, why is he allowed to receive communion?. Why do  these bishops and Pope permit this public apostasy and yet people like Bishop Richard Williamson of the SSPX get excommunicated?


    http://books.google.com/books?id=L4MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=P%C3%A8re+Hyacinthe+sermon&source=web&ots=q_wcmzMbdi&sig=bUOqkcW6JgQRGzxySslbnq7ZLmU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA89,M1

    My Last Will and Testament , by Hyacinthe Loyson (Pere Hyacinthe)

    ( excerpt from Religious Reform in France letter)

     No one can worthily uphold Catholic truth who has not first of all protested against those errors which have become interwoven in it and impoverish it. No one has the right of speaking in the name of the primitive Church which our creed calls "holy, Catholic and Apostolic", who has not energetically protested against all the superstition and fanaticism which have crept into the teaching of her ministers, or the observances of the faithful, through the fault of men and also through fault of the times.
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    excerpt from Letter of Cardinal Newman in 1870

     Let up be patient; the turn of things may not take place in our time; but there will be surely sooner or later, and energetic and stern nemesis for imperious acts such as now afflict us.
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    « Reply #111 on: September 11, 2008, 02:14:39 PM »
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    • Now let's all write tactfully but sternly disapproving things of an eminently fallible letter that St Pius X wrote to some company-man type Irish bishop about how wonderfully orthodox Cardinal Newman was despite this and, um, that, and, er, that...
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    « Reply #112 on: September 11, 2008, 07:26:33 PM »
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    • I must confess, I feel tempted to post blank entries until the defect introduced into this page by that absurdly long link (that completely messes up the format of this page) is no longer an issue; i.e., until a new page begins. :cowboy:
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    « Reply #113 on: September 11, 2008, 07:27:03 PM »
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    • Gotta do it...
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    « Reply #114 on: September 11, 2008, 07:29:13 PM »
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    • One post closer...
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    « Reply #115 on: September 11, 2008, 07:37:37 PM »
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    • Gettin' closer...

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    « Reply #116 on: September 11, 2008, 07:39:29 PM »
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    • Sorry, folks...

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    « Reply #117 on: September 11, 2008, 07:58:23 PM »
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    • One more try...sleep well, friends...
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    « Reply #118 on: September 11, 2008, 08:58:46 PM »
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    • I'll give it a shot also
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