I was wondering what y'all think of the Dimond brothers' assertion that the Consecration of Russia has already taken place, albeit imperfectly. See: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/consecration_russia.php

They also don't believe in the Seven Ages of the Church, and insist that we're living in the very last days of the world (i.e. no mass conversion of nations, no Great Monarch and no age of world peace, apart from the relative era of peace following the death of Stalin).

Age of the Church

Hi Brother Dimonds,

I have been told that we are in the 5th Age of the Church. These people are expecting two more ages before everything wraps up. What are your thoughts on this? These people assume on this premise that we will see a Church Restoration and the restoration of the Catholic monarch before the final apostasy with the anti-Christ. Can you give me insights on what to believe? After reading your section on Fatima and the Consecration and Conversion of Russia, I am inclined to believe your position over the speculations of these people.

AJ

MHFM: Thanks for the e-mail.  No, we don’t agree with their opinion.  They are probably deriving some of those opinions from various private revelations that have been compiled, some of which are contradictory and of questionable authenticity.  We believe that we are definitely in the Great Apostasy and living shortly before the coming of Christ.  The Vatican II apostasy is not just some run-of-the-mill crisis.  It’s the great crisis and falling away from the faith – the final spiritual deception – just before the return of the Lord.  In our opinion, this can also be seen by carefully considering other things that are going on in the world.

If there will be a “restoration,” as they believe, then that means that this Vatican II apostasy is not the Great Apostasy.  It means New Mass is not the abomination of desolation, etc.  We do not agree with that opinion.  Moreover, in her interview with Fr. Fuentes in 1957, the real Sr. Lucy clearly indicated that we are in the final days, and that Fatima was essentially the last big warning for the world.

Furthermore, in our section on Fatima, we show that the miracle of the sun was in itself an indication that the final apostasy and the final spiritual deception was about to happen.  The people who saw the miracle thought that it was the end of the world.  That was God’s way of indicating that this is the last warning.  Even the secular press unwittingly acknowledged that the miracle of Fatima was the sign of Heaven of Apocalypse 12:1.  That’s explained in the article.

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Of course, all of this is just speculation one way or the other, but I was curious to see what you guys think. Personally, I find some of their arguments convincing. However, I'm not convinced that there won't be a period of mass conversion before the times of the Antichrist and the end of the world.

That the Brothers Dimond endorse the notion that we're at the Apocalypse is assurance enough for me that we aren't.

Lol, yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I'm more likely to follow H.E. +Williamson than these so-called "monks". Still, they make an interesting case. Only problem I can find is that they say that the conversion is to be a 'conversion of peace', an end to the persecutions against the Church. But as we know, the persecutions against the Church did not end with the consecration of Russia by Pope Pius XII in 1952. Sure, Stalin died the next year, but the persecution of the Church throughout the world can hardly have said to have ceased. If anything, it became more virulent, although it may have taken on a different form (an attack against the doctrines and morals of the Church, both from within and without).

The Brothers argue that the 'period of peace' promised by Our Lady (that is, in their view, the end of the persecutions against the Church in Russia) was fulfilled with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But why would Our Lord wait nearly 40 years from the time of the Consecration before bringing about the promised period of peace? I would have thought that it would be nearly instantaneous. Never mind that the Church can hardly be said to be totally free from persecution (the Catholic Church is not even recognized as an official religion in Russia, and Catholics are the object of bile and hatred from most Russians).

Sigh, maybe I think too much.

No consecration.  In my opinion, it would take a pope in sanctifying grace to bring about a consecration.  Bishops had to be part of this consecration.  I believe we are approaching Chpt 12 of Daniel.  The continual sacrifice is coming to an end as prophecied.

Read the Chapter of Daniel.  It says that we will be without the continual Sacrifice for 3 and a half years.  Then we will have a time of peace.Christs blood is eternal, and what we have on earth is known as continual.