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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: romantheology on November 04, 2011, 05:47:32 PM
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According Pivarunas' letter where he expels nuns (15 out of 40) for adhering to Vatican 2 and Popes of Vatican 2 - Pivarunas elicts Heresy because he allows (to him) heresies (heretical nuns) to stay (at CMRI) as long as they do not open their mouths.
Communicatio in Sacris?
Pivarunas writes:
3. Any CMRI Sisters who do not hold to the CMRI position and yet will not speak or act against it will be allowed to stay.
source:
http://www.cmri.org/02-sisters-letter.html
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In the words of PiO:
romantheology- [size=8]WHO ARE YOU?! SHOW YOURSELF YOU SERPENT![/size]
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What do you want - social security number?
You must be such a nice person, I love you.
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According Pivarunas' letter where he expels nuns (15 out of 40) for adhering to Vatican 2 and Popes of Vatican 2 - Pivarunas elicts Heresy because he allows (to him) heresies (heretical nuns) to stay (at CMRI) as long as they do not open their mouths.
Communicatio in Sacris?
Pivarunas writes:
3. Any CMRI Sisters who do not hold to the CMRI position and yet will not speak or act against it will be allowed to stay.
source:
http://www.cmri.org/02-sisters-letter.html
Oh nonsense.
Perhaps, just perhaps, BISHOP Pivarunas is not so eager to throw nuns out of their homes, and is willing to make peace with those who can see their way to making peace with the theological position the CMRI has always held, at least to the extent that they can live with it in silence.
And in case you aren't familiar with me, I am a Novus Ordo attending semi-trad whom many here consider a closet Jew and a heretic. I am hardly a sedevacantist, but I can recognize a validly consecrated Bishop at 20 paces.
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This romantheology guy is just here to ruin people's reputations. Nearly all of his posts cut down someone. Who does that remind you of?
:scratchchin:
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In the words of PiO:
romantheology- [size=8]WHO ARE YOU?! SHOW YOURSELF YOU SERPENT![/size]
s2rea, this guy is going to get what he deserves. I have no doubt about it.
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I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.
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I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.
You deserve it? Really? You sound like a spoiled entitled little girl.
Nothing you say has any legitimate basis in theology. Give up, because you are outgunned and outnumbered. And if you seriously think your activity here is pleasing to God, you are spiritually deluded on two counts:
1. Your job is to save your soul, not detract from legitimate bishops and those who are seeking to preserve the traditional Catholic faith.
2. Your attack on them is an assault on the Church. Therefore you are Satanic.
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I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.
Hmmm... Interesting, since it seems that even the most hard core SSPX advocates here thing you are a twit.
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Reading the posts of this romantheology guy and then seeing Gregory I say romantheology is acting like a spoiled entitled little girl, I can't help but think of that "RescuedByMary" person who posted here in February. Anyone remember that person? It was likely David Hobson or "Pope" Augustine on another account, but whoever it was acted very feminine. Something about romantheology just reminds me of RBM.
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Pseudo-Bishop Mark Pivarunas supported (Francis Konrad Schuckardt) who, according to Pivarunas was having sex with Seminarians and took Illegal Drugs.
However, Pivarunas regarded SCHUCKARDT as his “legitimate bishop”!
Bishop (?) Mark A. Pivarunas on Bishop (?) Francis Schuckardt:
“He didn’t touch me, but he was definitely sɛҳuąƖly abusing seminarians, usually at his private residence in Spokane, and he was also taking a lot of drugs. His immorality was scandalous, but I continued to regard him as my legitimate bishop."
(The Smoke of Satan, by Michael Cuneo, Published by: Oxford University Press, 1997, p. 108).
And some people on here accuse me of casuing problems?
Ever see the TV Sitcom – Gimme a Break? Well, give me!
I lovemy baby back ribs!
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And what makes you think an immoral bishop is not a legitimate bishop?
If he legitimately thought he was his bishop, then he was obliged to consider and treat him as such, even if his behavior was deplorable.
If you disagree that an immoral bishop can be a legitimate bishop, then you have to explain your adherence to JPII who was clearly immoral in his religious policies.
When you have a principle YOU NEED TO FOLLOW IT THROUGH TO ITS LOGICAL CONCLUSION.[/color]
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Pivarunas should be ashamed and is unworthy to be a bishop - but however he was consecrated through a questionable line (Thuc) who consecrated an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (so-called Pope Gregory XVII in Spain)....
Heretical depravity at its best!
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Reading the posts of this romantheology guy and then seeing Gregory I say romantheology is acting like a spoiled entitled little girl, I can't help but think of that "RescuedByMary" person who posted here in February. Anyone remember that person? It was likely David Hobson or "Pope" Augustine on another account, but whoever it was acted very feminine. Something about romantheology just reminds me of RBM.
Yes I remember that account. I remember thinking ahhh isnt that a nice story about Mary saving people. But then it was really an emasculating Mary he was portraying, some BS story from that made her become a Rosy the Riveter type of savior.
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Pivarunas should be ashamed and is unworthy to be a bishop - but however he was consecrated through a questionable line (Thuc) who consecrated an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (so-called Pope Gregory XVII in Spain)....
Heretical depravity at its best!
Your ignorance is like a blinding light. It literally can paralyze minds, which is why youu don't get serious responses.
Thuc was sane, was able to consecrate Bishop Carmona, it was photographed, and he HAND WROTE the episcopal consecration certificate IN LATIN. Is it an act of feeblemindedness for a VIETNAMESE Bishop to write in Fluent LATIN?! No, of course not. Therefore, the consecration of Bishop Carmona, who in turn consecrated Bishop Pivarunas is without doubt.
And just FYI Pivarunas was among the group that OUSTED Schuckhardt. READ. You are terrible at research.
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And just FYI Pivarunas was among the group that OUSTED Schuckhardt. READ. You are terrible at research.
Pseudo-Gregory I - FYI - Lovebird....
Pivarunas regarded Schuckardt as his Legit ("too legit to quit" aka MC Hammer) Bishop even though he was having sex with seminarians and doing drugs...
I question Pivarunas? Highly suspect....
That is, FYI hunnybuns!
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And just FYI Pivarunas was among the group that OUSTED Schuckhardt. READ. You are terrible at research.
Pseudo-Gregory I - FYI - Lovebird....
Pivarunas regarded Schuckardt as his Legit ("too legit to quit" aka MC Hammer) Bishop even though he was having sex with seminarians and doing drugs...
I question Pivarunas? Highly suspect....
That is, FYI hunnybuns!
What does immorality have to do with a superior having legitimate auitority?
JPII prayed with pagans at Assisi in 1986, THAT was immoral. Is he not YOUR legitimate superior as Pope? Using your own logic, you should be a sedevacantist! (For all the wrong reasons).
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Don't avoid the issue by asking a question hunnybuns.
Pivarunas? Highly suspect and doubtful at best.
Sex scandals...wow!
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Don't avoid the issue by asking a question hunnybuns.
Pivarunas? Highly suspect and doubtful at best.
Sex scandals...wow!
I am demanding rational thinking of you. Does IMmorality invalidate the authority a superior has over his inferiors? Does it invalidate the legitimacy of episcopal office? Answer these, otherwise you reveal yourself as an inconcsistent hack, as we all know you are anyway...
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Don't avoid the issue by asking a question hunnybuns.
Pivarunas? Highly suspect and doubtful at best.
Sex scandals...wow!
Bishop Pivarunas? Validly consecrated albeit illicitly.
Sex scandals, I'm so glad they've only ever occurred among traditionalist groups... have you ever watched the news??!!! Here in Canada, a bishop was just caught crossing the Canadian - Yankee border with a hard drive full of smut, and in my home town the archdiocese is still involved in legal battles over allegations of sex abuse. Unless my memory fails me, there was just another scandal which erupted in Ireland last year, and the Church in America has yet to fully recover from it's own scandals. And guess what 0% occurred among traditionalist Catholic clergy!
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I am waiting romantheology.
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Don't avoid the issue by asking a question hunnybuns.
Pivarunas? Highly suspect and doubtful at best.
Sex scandals...wow!
I think you should watch every word you say, Roman! You will give account of your calumny on the day of your judgement.
Bishop Pivarunas is not guilty of any sex scandals. and was not involved in the Schukardt affair.
Why dont you just go away, before you get banned!
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I am demanding rational thinking of you.
Why do people waste their time with infra-human garbage that is an obvious embarrassment and whose very existence is an affront to God and man***!?
Gregory, you can't demand rational thinking from this idiot. You might as well demand honesty from politicians, chastity from prostitutes, consistency from democrats, or coherency from trolls who propagate their home-aloner garbage... oh wait, you did the last part.
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I can't remember how I found it, but I watched part of a very interesting sort of panel discussion with the + Piv and some priests... circa 1991 I think.
Is there anyone who might know which YouTube I am looking for?
There was a priest who had been with CMRI (before they were called that, I think) and he had a fascinating point of view.
I would be really grateful if anyone can direct me to this.
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Look for sedevacantist clergy meeting in youtube. I have watched it, and it is AWESOME, it addresses the internal issues of CMRI and indirectly the relation to SSPV.
Sedevacantist Clergy Meeting Circa 1991. Watch HERE haters!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozN-zjXMtPw)
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Know what I love about HIs Excellency +Pivarunas? He is OUT THERE trying to make the connections with other traditionalist clergy! That is more than can be said for the insularists...
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Look for sedevacantist clergy meeting in youtube. I have watched it, and it is AWESOME, it addresses the internal issues of CMRI and indirectly the relation to SSPV.
Sedevacantist Clergy Meeting Circa 1991. Watch HERE haters!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozN-zjXMtPw)
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Thank you so much Gregory.
May God reward you for your kindness. (and you're right, it's awesome!!)
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Know what I love about HIs Excellency +Pivarunas? He is OUT THERE trying to make the connections with other traditionalist clergy! That is more than can be said for the insularists...
Has anybody noticed Bp. Pivarunas has removed the two recent letters from the CMRI website?
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Look for sedevacantist clergy meeting in youtube. I have watched it, and it is AWESOME, it addresses the internal issues of CMRI and indirectly the relation to SSPV.
Sedevacantist Clergy Meeting Circa 1991. Watch HERE haters!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozN-zjXMtPw)
Wish I'd seen this video when it was new! I would have saved a lot of trouble.
Hey the New Zealander Father has got some fire! :cheers:
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Fr. Fouhy is an interesting character...and unfortunately, he wa deceived and confused and made some bad choices. I believe he left the priesthood because of the changes and got married, then realized he made a mistake and left his wife and travelled about New Zealand carrying a cross as a penance. Poor guy, he really put himself through hell...
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[Troll garbage]
I am demanding rational thinking of you.
Why do people waste their time with infra-human garbage that is an obvious embarrassment and whose very existence is an affront to God and man***!?
Gregory, you can't demand rational thinking from this idiot. You might as well demand honesty from politicians, chastity from prostitutes, consistency from democrats, or coherency from trolls who propagate their home-aloner garbage... oh wait, you did the last part.
*** Clarification: I mean to say that the internet entity known as "romantheology" is an abomination, not necessarily the person(s) who physically log in under that username. The person(s) is/are just an unemployed individual(s) who manifest(s) symptoms of various psychoses.
Wow.
Note to self, "Don't make Hobble mad". :wink: