Author Topic: Pseudo-Bishop Pivarunas - Compromises on Traditional Faith (Read 4669 times)

romantheology · « **on:** November 04, 2011, 05:47:32 PM »

According Pivarunas' letter where he expels nuns (15 out of 40) for adhering to Vatican 2 and Popes of Vatican 2 - Pivarunas elicts Heresy because he allows (to him) heresies (heretical nuns) to stay (at CMRI) as long as they do not open their mouths.

Communicatio in Sacris?

Pivarunas writes:

3. Any CMRI Sisters who do not hold to the CMRI position and yet will not speak or act against it will be allowed to stay.

source:

http://www.cmri.org/02-sisters-letter.html

s2srea · « **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2011, 05:51:57 PM »

In the words of PiO:

romantheology- [size=8]WHO ARE YOU?! SHOW YOURSELF YOU SERPENT![/size]

romantheology · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:01:17 PM »

What do you want - social security number?

You must be such a nice person, I love you.

Sigismund · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2011, 08:30:47 PM »

Quote from: romantheology

According Pivarunas' letter where he expels nuns (15 out of 40) for adhering to Vatican 2 and Popes of Vatican 2 - Pivarunas elicts Heresy because he allows (to him) heresies (heretical nuns) to stay (at CMRI) as long as they do not open their mouths.

Communicatio in Sacris?

Pivarunas writes:

3. Any CMRI Sisters who do not hold to the CMRI position and yet will not speak or act against it will be allowed to stay.

source:

http://www.cmri.org/02-sisters-letter.html

Oh nonsense.

Perhaps, just perhaps, BISHOP Pivarunas is not so eager to throw nuns out of their homes, and is willing to make peace with those who can see their way to making peace with the theological position the CMRI has always held, at least to the extent that they can live with it in silence.

And in case you aren't familiar with me, I am a Novus Ordo attending semi-trad whom many here consider a closet Jєω and a heretic. I am hardly a sedevacantist, but I can recognize a validly consecrated Bishop at 20 paces.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2011, 08:52:33 PM »

This romantheology guy is just here to ruin people's reputations. Nearly all of his posts cut down someone. Who does that remind you of?

:scratchchin:

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:17:06 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

In the words of PiO:

romantheology- [size=8]WHO ARE YOU?! SHOW YOURSELF YOU SERPENT![/size]

s2rea, this guy is going to get what he deserves. I have no doubt about it.

romantheology · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:58:19 PM »

I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.

Gregory I · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:00:39 PM »

Quote from: romantheology

I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.

You deserve it? Really? You sound like a spoiled entitled little girl.

Nothing you say has any legitimate basis in theology. Give up, because you are outgunned and outnumbered. And if you seriously think your activity here is pleasing to God, you are spiritually deluded on two counts:

1. Your job is to save your soul, not detract from legitimate bishops and those who are seeking to preserve the traditional Catholic faith.
2. Your attack on them is an assault on the Church. Therefore you are Satanic.

Sigismund · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2011, 07:49:35 AM »

Quote from: romantheology

I deserve to expose along with the glorious SSPX - the CMRI heretical sect and bogus Benedictine Monks - Dimonds.

Hmmm... Interesting, since it seems that even the most hard core SSPX advocates here thing you are a twit.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2011, 11:00:18 AM »

Reading the posts of this romantheology guy and then seeing Gregory I say romantheology is acting like a spoiled entitled little girl, I can't help but think of that "RescuedByMary" person who posted here in February. Anyone remember that person? It was likely David Hobson or "Pope" Augustine on another account, but whoever it was acted very feminine. Something about romantheology just reminds me of RBM.

romantheology · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2011, 12:15:03 PM »

Pseudo-Bishop Mark Pivarunas supported (Francis Konrad Schuckardt) who, according to Pivarunas was having sex with Seminarians and took Illegal Drugs.

However, Pivarunas regarded SCHUCKARDT as his “legitimate bishop”!

Bishop (?) Mark A. Pivarunas on Bishop (?) Francis Schuckardt:

“He didn’t touch me, but he was definitely sɛҳuąƖly abusing seminarians, usually at his private residence in Spokane, and he was also taking a lot of drugs. His immorality was scandalous, but I continued to regard him as my legitimate bishop."

(The Smoke of Satan, by Michael Cuneo, Published by: Oxford University Press, 1997, p. 108).

And some people on here accuse me of casuing problems?

Ever see the TV Sitcom – Gimme a Break? Well, give me!

I lovemy baby back ribs!

Gregory I · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2011, 01:26:39 PM »

And what makes you think an immoral bishop is not a legitimate bishop?

If he legitimately thought he was his bishop, then he was obliged to consider and treat him as such, even if his behavior was deplorable.

If you disagree that an immoral bishop can be a legitimate bishop, then you have to explain your adherence to JPII who was clearly immoral in his religious policies.

When you have a principle YOU NEED TO FOLLOW IT THROUGH TO ITS LOGICAL CONCLUSION.[/color]

romantheology · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2011, 03:07:10 PM »

Pivarunas should be ashamed and is unworthy to be a bishop - but however he was consecrated through a questionable line (Thuc) who consecrated an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (so-called Pope Gregory XVII in Spain)....

Heretical depravity at its best!

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2011, 06:46:25 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Reading the posts of this romantheology guy and then seeing Gregory I say romantheology is acting like a spoiled entitled little girl, I can't help but think of that "RescuedByMary" person who posted here in February. Anyone remember that person? It was likely David Hobson or "Pope" Augustine on another account, but whoever it was acted very feminine. Something about romantheology just reminds me of RBM.

Yes I remember that account. I remember thinking ahhh isnt that a nice story about Mary saving people. But then it was really an emasculating Mary he was portraying, some BS story from that made her become a Rosy the Riveter type of savior.

Gregory I · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2011, 01:01:16 AM »

Quote from: romantheology

Pivarunas should be ashamed and is unworthy to be a bishop - but however he was consecrated through a questionable line (Thuc) who consecrated an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (so-called Pope Gregory XVII in Spain)....

Heretical depravity at its best!

Your ignorance is like a blinding light. It literally can paralyze minds, which is why youu don't get serious responses.

Thuc was sane, was able to consecrate Bishop Carmona, it was photographed, and he HAND WROTE the episcopal consecration certificate IN LATIN. Is it an act of feeblemindedness for a VIETNAMESE Bishop to write in Fluent LATIN?! No, of course not. Therefore, the consecration of Bishop Carmona, who in turn consecrated Bishop Pivarunas is without doubt.

And just FYI Pivarunas was among the group that OUSTED Schuckhardt. READ. You are terrible at research.