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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Privationism in Fr. Wathen's book
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2018, 09:52:45 AM »
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The indelible mark is not sufficient to remain a member of the Church, since the link is cut by heresy, apostasy, or shiscm. 
Agree.  They are not members in action, or by belief, but they are still, in a sense, a member by initiation.  The only reason to make this distinction is to point out that they have been baptized and therefore, their conversion process would be different than those whom have never been baptized.

Re: Privationism in Fr. Wathen's book
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2018, 12:04:07 PM »
Black and white. He is the pope or he is not the pope. Amoris Laetitia is of the true faith or it is not. PF is a true pope or is not.

The debate is over.

No more gray areas as from 1958 to 2013. It is black and white now. You stand with Christ or you stand with the devil. Those who equivocate to long will lose their souls.


Re: Privationism in Fr. Wathen's book
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2018, 12:10:18 PM »
Black and white. He is the pope or he is not the pope. Amoris Laetitia is of the true faith or it is not. PF is a true pope or is not.

The debate is over.

No more gray areas as from 1958 to 2013. It is black and white now. You stand with Christ or you stand with the devil.

How Amoris Laetitia can be of the True Faith, if it contradicts the True Faith?

The True Faith is true precisely because it cannot contradict itself, but it is true in all times and for everyone in each passing generation.

That docuмent right there is yet another indication that the authority promulgating such error is false. In the Catholic Church this authority belongs to the Pope, so, no, this is a sign that he is not the Pope.

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Re: Privationism in Fr. Wathen's book
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2018, 12:20:24 PM »
Well....Amoris Laetitia isn’t infallible nor must any catholic accept it, under pain of sin, so the “authority” used by +Francis wasnt his Apostolic nor Doctinal authority, but a lesser, fallible one. In the end, just like V2, it’s word games and “appearances” of authority, but legally, when you look at the details, ASIDE FROM THE GRAVE SCANDAL, these docuмents are a waste of paper and aren’t binding, so they are meaningless.  

The devil (and his freemasonic henchmen) know they cannot command sin, nor can they change doctrine, nor can they erase truth, so they are left with lies and scandals to get people to lose their Faith.  All these docuмents are for the purpose of causing confusion, scandals and chaos.  Just ignore them because legally I don’t have to give them any thought or worry. 

Re: Privationism in Fr. Wathen's book
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2018, 06:22:12 AM »
The fact is the real schismatic heretics are the hierarchy of the Church.  They are worse than the Pharisees of the past.