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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2023, 05:28:06 PM »
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    Yet for all that, the thought of leaving the SSPX was insurmountable for him, and the fortitude was not backed by a confidence in providence, which resulted in his cpaitulation.
    Well, “leaving the sspx” is not a Medal of Honor if one’s views continue to be the same faulty views that caused you to leave in the first place.  So +Tissier stayed but +W left.  But are their views on the new mass/new ordinations really that different?  No, there’s little difference.  So leaving vs staying is a moot point.  

    Offline Kazimierz

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #31 on: September 03, 2023, 06:27:10 PM »
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  • Yes, he's one of those whom I had in mind.  Brilliant man ... though I don't agree with him on everything.  He was (rightly) a professor at STAS for some years and also US District Superior.  What he's doing in Nigeria is beyond me ... other than that he's not a neo-SSPX yes man.  As you mentioned, he's working for souls, but other priests who don't have his talents could also do that work there.  During my first year at STAS, I had tested out of Latin class, so, as my reward, I was to spend every day during Latin class time working in the library, taking all the books that had recently been moved from Ridgefield, and many others that came in through donations, and put them all away in the library.  There were these beautiful wood shelves, but they were empty, and I had huge piles of boxes.  Not only did I unpack them all, but I came up with a cataloging system, since nearly all the books were related to Catholic theology, I came up with a classification / cataloging system, and put them all away.  Of course, once you had put a bunch out on the shelf, then a new box or boxes would come in and I might have to re-arrange half the library to fit them in where they belonged.  We also had a "hell room", a little room outside the main library where we put Modernist trash books that somehow found their way in.



    What I remember most about him was the fact that he constantly had a smile on his face.

    Father Scott was the first principal at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in New Hamburg Ontario Canada. I lived with him and fellow Albertan Fr Dominic May for a year at the school in the year of its inception. Being sent to the rural locale of New Hamburg likely had much to do with his been a thorn in the side of the neosspx. From Canada he got shipped to South Africa then Nigeria. 
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #32 on: September 03, 2023, 06:50:49 PM »
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  • Sounds like a Burn Back Better in SSPX.  Very Sad

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #33 on: September 03, 2023, 06:54:06 PM »
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  • If Prior T had played his cards right, he would probably already have the Church he desperately wanted. One of his fatal mistakes was closing the Miami chapel (then selling it)  and moving to Davie.

    Apparently, there is a considerable demand for the TLM, and the Archdiocese of Miami is taking full advantage. I would not be surprised to learn that many parishioners attending this indult were former SSPX massgoers.

    Wenski would gladly give the SSPX Broward if they stay out of Dade. Trust me, this back and forth has continued for over a decade.

    https://wdtprs.com/2023/09/remember-you-cant-have-the-traditional-latin-mass-because-there-is-one-expression-of-the-roman-rite-video/


    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article277282678.html


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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #34 on: September 03, 2023, 07:06:21 PM »
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  • Sounds very much like a professional sports owner. If you don’t build us a new arena, we are going to leave the city. Just this time with a church. Times are difficult with inflation rates, wages aren’t rising and unless you have money or are a politician that he can rub elbows with, then who cares?

    Others have pointed out, they left St Philomena in Miami out in the cold and sold. They care about money at the end of the day and not people. Further, this story about the school. FDOT is not going to allow a school? I heard also in Davie the town council had not allowed that either. Bad stewards of money.


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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #35 on: September 03, 2023, 07:15:30 PM »
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  • Yes, the Davie planning and zoning board denied four variances. So now they are stuck with land that cost parishioners a million dollars. And they still have the fundraiser asking for another million dollars. 

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #36 on: September 03, 2023, 08:37:16 PM »
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  • I’m starting to wonder if these priests from the SSPX are under pressure from the leadership to “bring home the bacon.” There is something that is entirely off here. Is it possible they(the Neo-SSPX) are completely out of touch with reality? Something is not right.

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #37 on: September 04, 2023, 06:12:56 AM »
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  • Apparently, it's Bishop Tissier, but I don't know for sure.
    Well, at least it's not a NO bishop.  However, I don't understand why there would be a need to do the confirmations in the NO church. 


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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #38 on: September 04, 2023, 06:16:24 AM »
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  • I also heard that but wasn’t sure if it was a Novus Ordo church. Are you sure?
    Positive it’s a NO church, it’s been in Sanford for decades and the previous Prior was not a fan of the Tridentine Mass

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #39 on: September 04, 2023, 11:30:16 AM »
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  • Well, at least it's not a NO bishop.  However, I don't understand why there would be a need to do the confirmations in the NO church.
    If you would listen to Father Toupee's announcements, he said it is because the St. Thomas More Chapel in Sanford is too small to accommodate the number of people who would likely attend the confirmations and Bishop Tissier de Mallerais' Pontifical Mass.  He based that on their experience the last time confirmations were held at St. Thomas More.

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #40 on: September 04, 2023, 12:00:52 PM »
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  • If you would listen to Father Toupee's announcements, he said it is because the St. Thomas More Chapel in Sanford is too small to accommodate the number of people who would likely attend the confirmations and Bishop Tissier de Mallerais' Pontifical Mass.  He based that on their experience the last time confirmations were held at St. Thomas More.

    If that's the case, then they could rent a hall ... rather than enter an NO church.  But so what?  I've been at many chapels where there wasn't enough room for all the potential guests of a confirmation, and they simply rationed out how many guests each confirmand could bring.  All that really matters are the confirmands, sponsors, and immediate family.  If they want to throw some kind of party later, they can move it to their homes or wherever.  I'm calling hogwash on this, that it's just an excuse to acclimate people to thinking of the NO as Catholic.


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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #41 on: September 04, 2023, 01:59:42 PM »
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    I'm calling hogwash on this, that it's just an excuse to acclimate people to thinking of the NO as Catholic.
    Bingo.  The new-sspx is slowly boiling the Trad frogs until they become indult...or worse.

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #42 on: September 04, 2023, 08:17:02 PM »
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  • Here's another hint. ;)  While not in Nigeria, also hidden away in obscurity.


    That priest is the best priest in the SSPX right now IMO. 

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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #43 on: September 04, 2023, 08:24:16 PM »
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  • As I have mentioned before, I have no connection with the Society nor with any other chapel that would fit this forum’s definition of “traditional”, my interest in the topic is mostly because of my administrative experience in an ecclesiastical setting.  Two of my three posts in this thread were to answer questions that were asked by the same person, and had clearly been answered in the video with Father Toupee.
     
    The St. Thomas More Priory website currently indicates that Confirmation and Mass with Bishop Tissier de Mallerais will be October 14 at St. Thomas More chapel Sanford and on October 15 at Our Lady of Victory in Davie.  For Sanford it says that families may invite as many guests as they want but an RSVP is required for the luncheon afterwards.
     
    In his announcements at Mass on August 27 Father Toupee mentioned that All Souls parish had offered their (presumable) larger church for the Confirmation and Mass, somewhat in the larger context of St. Thomas More needing a larger chapel because of growth in the congregation.  There is not yet an indication that things will be moved.  Some here are speculating (and it is pure speculation) that the real reason for a change would be to “acclimate” the SSPX faithful to “playing nice” with the Novus Ordo.  This is an interesting as when I first ran across Trad Forums 10 – 15 years ago there were many reports of SSPX and other traditionalist groups going on pilgrimages (various shrines across the U.S., Lourdes, Fatima, Rome, etc.) and being denied permission to have a Mass or even recite a group rosary.  The “trad consensus” was that ALL Catholic groups should be allowed access to the Church’s patrimony.  For those with comprehension issues, please note that NOTHING is being said here about the Novus Ordo “being Catholic”.  Now when the SSPX may gain some access they are “capitulating” or “selling out”?  I don’t think you can have it both ways.  The notice of the pilgrimage to the Shrine of the North American Martyrs triggered this memory as visiting there is bucket list for me.  I don’t know how “official” this visit is, but the idea that honoring and have a devotion toward the North American Martyrs is somehow “apostasy” because of who currently controls the real estate … the logic of that completely escapes me.
     
    For sake of a discussion, let us suppose that Father Toupee had made the following announcement:
    Bishop Tissier de Mallerais is coming for Confirmations next month.  When Bishop Fellay was here for the last Confirmations is was apparent that our chapel is way too small.  We have the following options (I have no idea of the capacity of the chapel nor the size of the Confirmation class so my hypothetical examples are speculative):
     
    We can have Confirmation here in the chapel but each candidate and their family will be allowed only four tickets (two parents, one confirmandi, and one sponsor).  Other family and chapel members will only be admitted on a space available basis.  All are welcome to the garden reception with an RSVP.
     
    We can rent the ballroom at the local “Trump Hotel”, which should accommodate all who wish to attend.  The $800 - $1,000 cost (those are realistic numbers from my experience of organizing events) will be assessed to the confirmation families.  If any chapel members wish to contribute that will be greatly appreciated.  There will be a reception following Confirmation and Mass, also at the hotel.
     
    We can reserve the kiosk at the city park for an outdoor Confirmation and Mass.  All are invited, you will need to bring your camp chair and be prepared to kneel on the lawn.  You may wish to bring a garden kneeling pad or blanket, the chapel isn’t responsible for dry cleaning costs.  There will be a hamburger, hotdog, and s’mores reception in the park afterwards.
     
    The Parish of All Souls has graciously offered the use of their larger church for Confirmation and the Pontifical Mass.  Only hosts consecrated by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais during the Mass will be distributed at Holy Communion.
     
    I’m wondering which of the four hypothetical options chapel members would most prefer, I would hope that options 2 and 3 would be considered the most inappropriate.  It is a pretty safe bet that no matter which option Father and Bishop Tissier de Mallerais would approve, there will be a segment who will attack them for it.



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    Re: Prior Toupee in Sanford FL groveling for money
    « Reply #44 on: September 04, 2023, 10:12:52 PM »
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  • That priest is the best priest in the SSPX right now IMO.
    And what is his name?