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Title: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Geremia on September 10, 2020, 07:05:45 PM
https://youtu.be/3-7eoTN2vNM
Bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’ for priest whose viral video warned Catholics can’t be Democrats (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-threatens-canonical-penalties-for-fr-altman?utm_source=featured&utm_campaign=standard)

(The Beethoven Fr. James Altman chose for his video was Bp. Williamson's favorite. :cowboy:)
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: fatimarevelation23 on September 10, 2020, 08:34:52 PM
Geremia, this was the best video I've seen all day! I am glad Fr. Altman brought up the SPLC because they are evil people who try to portray the traditionalist conservative catholic community as being radical αnтι-ѕємιтєs and anti-women. If you read what the SPLC says about traditionalist catholics, You'll see quotes like this:

Radical traditionalist Catholics, who may make up the largest single group of serious antisemites in America, subscribe to an ideology that is rejected by the Vatican and some 70 million mainstream American Catholics. - SPLC 2019

And...

The Society of St. Pius X, which has chapels and schools across the United States, remains a font of anti-Semitic propaganda. - SPLC 2015

The SPLC has attacked notable people in the traditional catholic church from the wonderful bishops of the SSPX to John Maffei of Catholic Counterpoint to Dr. Robert Sungenis of Catholic Apologetics International, the list goes on. Fr. Altman is the first priest I've heard on youtube to truly expose and be honest about the evils of the SPLC while receiving over 500,000 views. Congrats for him!

I have dealt with the SPLC before. You can find a forum post I did here on Cathinfo somewhere a while back of my email conversation with the SPLC. They are truly communists!
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Stubborn on September 11, 2020, 05:02:53 AM
Another one on the wrong side who speaks the truth.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Kolar on September 11, 2020, 06:35:36 AM
 The Republican party was and is the WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). No Catholic would ever be a Republican. Catholics were democrats. JFK was a democrat. After Vatican II the democratic party was infiltrated by radicals. So it is true that Catholics cannot be democrats. But they certainly cannot be Republicans either. The Republican party remains anti-Catholic.
We need to get away from party politics and vote for individuals who promote Christ the King.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Last Tradhican on September 11, 2020, 08:28:36 AM
The Republican party was and is the WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). No Catholic would ever be a Republican. Catholics were democrats. JFK was a democrat. After Vatican II the democratic party was infiltrated by radicals. So it is true that Catholics cannot be democrats. But they certainly cannot be Republicans either. The Republican party remains anti-Catholic.
We need to get away from party politics and vote for individuals who promote Christ the King.
Unfortunately, only maybe 1% (if that) of baptized Catholics live the faith. There's no point in discussing how to fix the USA or ones country, when Catholic men do not even direct their own homes properly.  
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 11, 2020, 02:09:17 PM
I played this video for my novus ordo father.   He is still voting democrat. 
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 11, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
The Catholic novus ordo can preach the democrat party from the pulpits and invite them to church functions.  What a bunch of hypocrites.  Pope Francis breaks canon law everyday.  It is a shame that Father Altman is being persecuted.  

In the past, I wrote articles to local paper about corrupt diocese and received death threats.  I wrote that Rome and the local diocese was in state of apostasy.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 11, 2020, 02:24:35 PM
Unfortunately, only maybe 1% (if that) of baptized Catholics live the faith. There's no point in discussing how to fix the USA or ones country, when Catholic men do not even direct their own homes properly.  
You are right.   “All the evil in the world is because of lukewarm Catholics”. St Pope Pius V 
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Struthio on September 11, 2020, 03:11:28 PM
There were times, when Catholics (and even heretics) didn't vote for "remarried" candidates.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Cera on September 13, 2020, 04:37:59 PM
The Republican party was and is the WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). No Catholic would ever be a Republican. Catholics were democrats. JFK was a democrat. After Vatican II the democratic party was infiltrated by radicals. So it is true that Catholics cannot be democrats. But they certainly cannot be Republicans either. The Republican party remains anti-Catholic.
We need to get away from party politics and vote for individuals who promote Christ the King.
JFK (the serial womanizer) was a democrat back before they got taken over by radical revolutionaries who support
baby-killing,
LGBT,
pretend ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "marriages"
abortions for men pretending to be women
terrorist groups like antifa and BLM engaging in arson, looting and violence
child porn like the recent Netflix film exploiting children
young Americans being killed in unlimited foreign wars

The only way left to us to fight against these evils is to vote AGAINST  the dems.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Geremia on September 13, 2020, 05:08:00 PM
JFK was a democrat.
He was a traitor to the faith like Biden.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 14, 2020, 06:36:24 AM
Another one on the wrong side who speaks the truth.
Those on the “right” side are silent...
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 14, 2020, 06:39:42 AM
At this time we have no choice but to vote republican. 
Traditional Catholics aren’t living the faith. 
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: claudel on September 14, 2020, 09:16:33 PM

He was a traitor to the faith like Biden.

Thank you, Geremia. We are now into the third generation of degenerate Kennedys, and no matter how often they spit on the Faith in their immoral private life or politics, it seems that an endless supply of delusional Catholics will turn up to declare them the true hope for the Church and for America. God help us!
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: claudel on September 14, 2020, 09:40:56 PM

The Republican party was and is the WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). No Catholic would ever be a Republican. Catholics were democrats. JFK was a democrat. After Vatican II the democratic party was infiltrated by radicals. So it is true that Catholics cannot be democrats. But they certainly cannot be Republicans either. The Republican party remains anti-Catholic.

A truly ignorant comment. There is hardly even a single clause without an error.

Let me address the second most obvious absurdity,* that Catholics were Democrats. As it happens, I was fifteen in 1960, and every Catholic save one known to me—including the Irish Christian Brothers who taught me in high school—voted for Nixon.

There has never been a political party in the United States that was overtly pro-Catholic. The only yardstick with any historical relevance is welcomeness to Catholic participation. From the time of William Jennings Bryan to that of Harry Truman, the Democratic Party was, overall, more welcoming to Catholics, but it was also more welcoming to anarchists, communists, socialists, Jєωs, millionaires, labor organizers, feminists, and immigrationists. In other words, then as now, the Democrats were the party of dissent, disorder, subversion of the moral and natural order, and grievance. The party exploited its Catholic membership under the guise of advancing its interests. The last Democratic president with a sustainable moral claim on our admiration was Grover Cleveland.
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* The most obvious absurdity, of course, is the implicit claim that JFK was Catholic.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: MMagdala on September 15, 2020, 02:56:28 AM
There were times, when Catholics (and even heretics) didn't vote for "remarried" candidates.
And in those cases, there were alternatives.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: MMagdala on September 15, 2020, 03:05:51 AM
Fr. Altman, to whom I have been listening for months (including the recent video in the OP), is a rare brave cleric.  He has been brutally frank about the cowards in the episcopacy, the conformity in the clergy, and the heresy in the papacy.  Many of those he criticizes are in danger of losing their souls -- but particularly if they try to silence him now.  His sermons have gone viral, and I would hope that orthodox Catholics in his diocese make their appreciation of him known to his superiors, as publicly as possible.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: songbird on September 15, 2020, 04:44:05 PM
When New Order promotes the agenda of the Federal Gov't, the Programs that are of Catholic Charities,  the New Order is serving the Democrats agenda, Marxist.
The people may vote republican, BUT, the agenda of the New Order is the agenda of Communism. True.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: alaric on September 15, 2020, 04:58:37 PM
I played this video for my novus ordo father.   He is still voting democrat.
Does he still have all his faculties?
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: SimpleMan on September 16, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Unfortunately, only maybe 1% (if that) of baptized Catholics live the faith. There's no point in discussing how to fix the USA or ones country, when Catholic men do not even direct their own homes properly.  
I hate mortgages as much as any faithful Catholic should, but how would you propose that people buy homes without them?  Would we be a nation of renters like Germany or France?

Thanks to some good financial management and two generations of frugality, my family owns two decent, well-built homes free and clear.   I am going to leave one of these homes to my son, so that he will never have to feed the mortgage beast either.  But not everyone is that fortunate.

And I will never understand why people so prize the mortgage interest deduction on one's taxes, when you are paying three times the value of the house, over 15 to 30 years.  I guess they think it's better than renting, and having nothing to show for it, except 360 cancelled checks and no equity at the end.
Title: Randall Terry rebukes Callahan.
Post by: Geremia on September 16, 2020, 12:02:51 PM
https://youtu.be/aGBKCCNc6wM
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Ladislaus on September 16, 2020, 12:11:13 PM
I hate mortgages as much as any faithful Catholic should, but how would you propose that people buy homes without them?  Would we be a nation of renters like Germany or France?

Thanks to some good financial management and two generations of frugality, my family owns two decent, well-built homes free and clear.   I am going to leave one of these homes to my son, so that he will never have to feed the mortgage beast either.  But not everyone is that fortunate.

And I will never understand why people so prize the mortgage interest deduction on one's taxes, when you are paying three times the value of the house, over 15 to 30 years.  I guess they think it's better than renting, and having nothing to show for it, except 360 cancelled checks and no equity at the end.

Unfortunately, long gone is the time when men could be though to own their homes "free and clear".  Just see what happens if you stop paying property taxes or if the government wants to invoke eminent domain.  See how much you "own" your home then.  By the time my parents had their 30-year mortgage paid off, their property taxes were HIGHER than their Principle & Interest payments.
Title: Re: Randall Terry rebukes Callahan.
Post by: Cera on September 17, 2020, 01:28:36 PM
https://youtu.be/aGBKCCNc6wM
Germia, you made my day. He was so true and so hilarious at the same time. Thank you!
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 17, 2020, 06:25:01 PM
There were times, when Catholics (and even heretics) didn't vote for "remarried" candidates.
We shouldn’t.  “Catholic” Biden  was with a married woman and ended up marrying her. 
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: BarbaraZ on September 21, 2020, 08:18:04 PM
Fr. James Altman.....new  video........Sept. 21

https://youtu.be/yVt10eZMN1M (https://youtu.be/yVt10eZMN1M)
Title: Randall Terry confronts Biden's bishop.
Post by: Geremia on October 03, 2020, 11:45:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEWp2PZjcuw
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Nadir on October 04, 2020, 12:43:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuwVcAMjY8I
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: moneil on October 04, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
From Reply # 8
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There were times, when Catholics (and even heretics) didn't vote for "remarried" candidates.
Republican Nelson Rockefeller's 1964 presidential campaign was partly derailed because he had divorced his wife and married a divorcee.  Conservative sensibilities about this topic seem to have shifted substantially by 1980 when Ronald Reagan was nominated and elected after being divorced and it was known that his 2nd wife Nancy was already pregnant when they married in 1952.  The widower Joseph Biden did marry a divorced non-Catholic in 1977.  No additional comment is needed regarding the current POTUS's regard for the sacredness of marriage.

Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: SimpleMan on October 04, 2020, 09:52:36 AM
Unfortunately, long gone is the time when men could be though to own their homes "free and clear".  Just see what happens if you stop paying property taxes or if the government wants to invoke eminent domain.  See how much you "own" your home then.  By the time my parents had their 30-year mortgage paid off, their property taxes were HIGHER than their Principle & Interest payments.
Eminent domain is always a possibility, and at least in theory, the government is supposed to reimburse you justly, so it is not as though you've "lost" the value of it.  And as far as taxes are concerned, I am opposed to the government creating tax liens against real property --- let it remain a legal claim against the taxpayer (possibly ruining their credit and/or establishing a judgment in court) --- but there are a lot of things in life we "want", yet if you "want" in your right hand, and, well, do whatever in your left hand, guess which one gets full first.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Matthew on October 04, 2020, 02:43:42 PM
I can't believe ANY Catholic would vote Democrat. But many do, and for stupid reasons:

For their policies on immigration
Anti-death penalty
Pro-climate change agenda
etc.

The Catholic Church does NOT teach that every man born has an innate, inalienable human right to immigrate to America (or any other country). Maybe we all have a right to live in our native country -- but any other country, it's up to them!

On the other hand, a baby has a right to life.

The abortion issue trumps all the others.

Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Matto on October 04, 2020, 02:46:51 PM
I can't believe ANY Catholic would vote Democrat. But many do, and for stupid reasons:

The most pious woman I have ever known was a Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016. I tried to explain to her that he was pro-abortion.
Title: Re: priest: Catholics can’t be Democrats, bishop threatens ‘canonical penalties’
Post by: Geremia on October 04, 2020, 03:31:55 PM
The most pious woman I have ever known was a Bernie Sanders supporter
A baby killer supporter isn't pious.