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https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-07/st-john-henry-newman-set-to-become-newest-doctor-of-the-church.html


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The news was announced today, July 31, in a statement from the Holy See Press Office, which reported that during an audience granted to Cardinal Marcello Semeraro, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints, Pope Leo XIV has “confirmed the affirmative opinion of the Plenary Session of Cardinals and Bishops, Members of the Dicastery for the Causes of Saints, regarding the title of Doctor of the Universal Church, which will soon be conferred on Saint John Henry Newman.”

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  • Fr. Paul Kimball has a very interesting book he wrote about Cardinal Newman. Controversial among traditionalists.
    Dolorosa Press: Cardinal Newman: Trojan Horse in the Church
    “Rest is attained only through labor; victory only through combat; joy only through tears; and the sweetness of God's love only through hatred of self.”

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    Re: Prevost to declare John Henry Newman a Doctor of the Conciliar Church
    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2025, 08:13:03 AM »
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  • I've always felt like there was something just a little "off" about Newman's theology, but I can't quite put my finger on it.  Can anyone help me out here?

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    Re: Prevost to declare John Henry Newman a Doctor of the Conciliar Church
    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2025, 02:44:21 PM »
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  • I think there should have been a devil's advocate during Newman's canonization process.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Prevost to declare John Henry Newman a Doctor of the Conciliar Church
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  • Cardinal John Henry Newman's Exhumation Objectors
    Professor Ian Ker
    Oxford University, England

    Healthy manhood at the service of the kingdom
    Recently various newspapers have published articles on Venerable John Henry Newman, sowing doubts about his sɛҳuąƖ inclination. The following is a clarification by Prof. Ian Ker, an eminent Newman scholar and Oxford University Professor.
    The exhumation of Venerable John Henry Newman's body from his grave has led to calls in particular from the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby that he should not be separated from his great friend and collaborator Fr. Ambrose St John, in whose grave Newman is buried in accordance with his own specific wishes.
    The implication of these protests is clear: that Newman wished to be buried with his friend because, although no doubt chaste and celibate, nevertheless he had more than simply friendly feelings for St. John.
    However, if wanting to be buried in the same grave as someone else indicates some kind of sɛҳuąƖ love for the other person, then C.S. Lewis' brother Warnie, who is buried in the same grave in accordance with both brothers' wishes, must have had incestuous feelings for his brother.
    Or again, G.K. Chesterton's devoted secretary, Dorothy Collins, whom he and his wife regarded as a daughter, while thinking it presumptuous to ask to be buried in the same grave as the Chestertons. nevertheless directed that she be cremated and that her ashes should be buried in the same grave. Does this mean that she had more than filial feelings for one or both of her employers?
    Ambrose St. John was an extremely close friend of Newman. He had devoted himself for 30 years to the service of Newman, even asking if he might take a vow of obedience to him at his Confirmation, a request that was, of course, refused.
    Newman blamed himself for his death, having asked him to translate the German theologian Joseph Fessler's important book on infallibility in the wake of the First Vatican Council, a last labour of love that had proved too much for him, overworked as he already was.
    In his dark last days as an Anglican, Newman said that Ambrose St. John had come to him "as Ruth to Naomi". After joining Newman's semi-monastic community at Littlemore outside Oxford, he had remained as Newman's closest supporter all through the difficulties of founding the Oratory of St. Philip Neri in England and all through Newman's many subsequent trials and tribulations as a Catholic.
    In his Apologia pro Vita sue, Newman "with great reluctance" mentions that at the time of his first religious conversion when he was 15 he became convinced that "it would be the will of God that I should lead a single life".
    For the next 14 years, "with the break of a month now and then", and then continuously, he believed that his "calling in life would require such a sacrifice".
    Needless to say, there were no "civil partnerships" between men then in what was still a Christian country where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activity was punishable by imprisonment and was universally regarded as immoral. Newman, of course, is talking about marriage with a woman and the sacrifice that celibacy involved.
    The only reason it could have been a sacrifice was because like any normal man Newman, wished to get married. But, although not belonging to a church where celibacy was the rule or even the ideal, Newman, steeped in Scripture as he was, knew the words of our Lord: "there are eunuchs who have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom of heaven".
    Twenty five years after his youthful embrace of celibacy, we find Newman counting the cost, at the conclusion of the extraordinary account he wrote of his near fatal illness in Sicily in 1833: "The thought keeps pressing on me, while I write this, what am I writing it for?... Whom have I, whom can I have, who would take interest in it?... This is the sort of interest which a wife takes and none but she — it is a woman's interest — and that interest, so be it, shall never be taken in me.... And therefore I willingly give up the possession of that sympathy, which I feel is not, cannot be, granted to me. Yet, not the less do I feel the need of it".
    In these moving sentences, written while he was still a clergyman of the Church of England and fully entitled to marry, we see Newman's total commitment to the life of virginity to which he felt unmistakably called, but yet we can also feel the deep pain he experienced in sacrificing the love of a woman in marriage.
    Finally, what should be said to those who think Newman's wishes should be honoured and that Ambrose St. John's remains should be removed with his?
    Throughout his life as a Catholic. Newman always insisted that whatever he wrote he wrote under the correction of Holy Mother Church. That was his constant refrain. If the Church decrees that his remains should be removed to a church, then Newman's undoubted response would be that of his last testament. like everything else he wrote, he wrote under correction of higher authority.
    And if that higher authority decrees that his body be removed and that of his friend left, then Newman would say without hesitation, "so be it".
     

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    Re: Prevost to declare John Henry Newman a Doctor of the Conciliar Church
    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2025, 09:34:04 PM »
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  • I've always felt like there was something just a little "off" about Newman's theology, but I can't quite put my finger on it.  Can anyone help me out here?
    I think the ascent of mt Carmel youtube channel has some stuff on him, and the dimonds as well.

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  • I've always felt like there was something just a little "off" about Newman's theology, but I can't quite put my finger on it.  Can anyone help me out here?

    There’s good evidence he was a Jєωιѕн ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Marrano.

    Marrano in the sense of a Church infiltrator, not a Sephardic jew.

    He was a bankers son and had jew-Brit military connections, especially with his Anglican high-church status.

    He was in Ireland during the beginning (1845) and end (1851) of the Irish h0Ɩ0cαųst. 

    Since half the British army occupied Ireland at this time, it was hard for him not to know that 6.2million Irish had been forced starved to death.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    A little about the name "Newman". We think of Cardinal Newman. Maybe some think of the jwish actor Paul Newman.

    Here's another Newman:

    --https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/the-point-july-1957/


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    The Jews’ greatest triumph, however, in the art of dividing Christendom by injecting new and Jєωιѕн ideas into the midst of the Church, came with the multiple revolts of the Protestant “reformers.” Each one of them is a detectable creature of the Judaizers, and Jєωιѕн commentators from Graetz down to Louis Israel Newman have been most happy to acknowledge them as such. In his Jєωιѕн Influence On Christian Reform Movements, Newman summarizes: “Protestantism made its greatest stand where the Marrano Jews were active … They helped break down the authority of the Vulgate and thereby prepared Europe for the Reformation.”

    The reference to Saint Jerome’s “Vulgate” version, the Catholic version, of the Bible is no idle one. The entire Reformation era rocked with the “battle of the books” controversy, in which Jєωιѕн-trained Hebrew scholars were constantly pressing for the authority of Hebrew texts, and for the universal study of those numerous Jєωιѕн books which the Church had everywhere been censoring or burning — chief among them, the blasphemous тαℓмυd.


    --https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/the-point-june-1958/



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    It is not likely that the near future will see any relaxation of the United Jєωιѕн Appeal’s money-grabbing efforts. The Jєωιѕн State still needs, and badly, the financial support of its American citizens-in-exile; it has some projects in mind that will be costly. Any American Jew who does not know what these projects are, is out of touch with his brothers across the sea; for as the influential New York rabbi, Dr. Louis Israel Newman says: “There is scarcely an intelligent Israeli today who believes that the present boundary lines are permanent, or that the hill country of Cis-Jordania is to be forever separated from Israeli territory.”


    And here's something about Cardinal Newman:

    --https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-december-1954/


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    THE PRESENT POSITION OF CARDINAL NEWMAN

    Q. What is it about John Henry Newman, English convert and Cardinal, that Catholics chiefly remember?

    A. His mastery of English prose.

    Q. What is it about John Henry Newman that Catholics of our day generally forget?

    A. They forget, or never have been told of, his Jєωιѕн descent.

    Q. If we Catholics were to bear in mind Newman’s real ancestry when we are appraising his literary ability, could we not then boast that we have had in our fold the greatest Jєωιѕн writer in the English language?

    A. We could — except for the fact that there have been in the English language other Jєωιѕн writers, like Robert Browning, Max Beerbohm, and Philip Guedalla, who never once thought of joining the Catholic Church.

    Q. Apart from his literary abilities, did not Newman make a good conversion to the Catholic Church?

    A. He made a nostalgic conversion.

    Q. What sort of conversion is that?

    A. It is a conversion effected in a typical Old Testament manner, in which one is always sighing after the “flesh-pots” of things one has abandoned, and which in Newman’s case required an Apologia Pro Vita Sua, an apology for his own life, to justify.

    Q. After his conversion, and his ordination to the priesthood, is it really true that Newman used often to forego theological studies and pastoral pursuits in order to devote more time to reading from the pagan Greeks?

    A. Biographers disagree. Newman’s only comment in the matter was his repeated remark, “I shall never be a saint, for I love the pagan classics too intensely.”

    Q. Did not the blood which he inherited, from the Jєωιѕн moneylender who was his father, allow Newman to bring to the Faith some of those same racial qualities possessed by the very earliest Christians, by Our Lord’s own Apostles and disciples?

    A. The Jєωιѕн qualities which Newman brought to the Faith have been very tidily set in order by Canon William Barry, S. T. D., the eminent English authority on Newman. Canon Barry reports that to Newman’s “Hebrew affinities” the following qualities are attributed: “ … his cast of features, his remarkable skill in music and mathematics, his dislike of metaphysical speculations, his grasp of the concrete, and his nervous temperament.”

    Q. What was it that Newman called those fellow Catholics of his who, at the time of the Vatican Council, were in favor of having the Pope’s personal infallibility defined?

    A. Newman nervously called them, “an aggressive and insolent faction.”

    Q. Was this attitude toward the definition of Papal infallibility the reason why Pope Pius IX so totally mistrusted Newman?

    A. It was one of the reasons.

    Q. If Pope Pius IX so frowned upon him, why was Newman made a Cardinal?

    A. Newman was made a Cardinal after Pope Pius IX died, when the Catholic Duke of Norfolk prevailed upon the newly installed Leo XIII to brighten the aged Newman’s final years with a red hat.

    Q. Is it in England that Cardinal Newman’s spirit best survives today?

    A. It is not. Modern Catholic Englishmen, without analyzing it, sense that Cardinal Newman was, religiously, the kind of interloper in their midst that Prime Minister Disraeli was politically.

    Q. Where then have Newman’s name and fame been most perpetuated?

    A. In America, in the form of clubs. Newman Clubs, they are called.

    Q. What is a Newman Club?

    A. It is an organized excuse for the presence, the sinful presence, of Catholic students at secular universities founded and fostered by Masons and, lately, indoctrinated by Jews.

    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.