« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2023, 02:24:51 PM »
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Pope St. Gregory II (circa A.D. 731): “You ask for advice on the lawfulness of making offerings for the dead. The teaching of the Church is this – that every man should make offerings for those who died as true Christians [Catholics]… But he is not allowed to do so for those who die in a state of sin even if they were Christians.”
And again, is St. Gregory talking about you magically viewing the internal forum of a person? No, he's obviously talking about the external forum.
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You can set your watch to the Dimond's strategic use of ellipses to change the meaning of the material they use. The actual quote is from Gregory II in response to a letter St. Boniface sent him, where Gregory says priests should not offer mass for those who are known to have died in sin. It is unclear if he is speaking of funeral rites only or of Mass in general, but in either event the meaning is quite different from what the Dimond's misconstrue.
.You ask for advice on the lawfulness of making offerings for the dead. The teaching of the Church is this-that every man should make offerings for those who died as true Christians and that the priest should make a commemoration of them [at Mass]. And although all are liable to fall into sin, it is fitting that the priest should make a commemoration and intercede for them. But he is not allowed to do so for those who die in a state of sin even if they were Christians.
From: https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/boniface-letters.asp (letter 16).
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