Author Topic: Praying for the damned increases their suffering? (Read 54750 times)

Everlast22 · « **Reply #100 on:** August 21, 2026, 07:38:52 AM »

Do people not understand God's providence?

Justice is given to every person, God is never unfair or unjust, so stop worrying if non-Catholics get saved or not (they don't). What is your NO/Indulters problem? You're modernists.

Not much else to say about it.

Telling · « **Reply #101 on:** August 21, 2026, 07:54:35 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on August 21, 2026, 07:16:02 AM

Why does Matthew continue subjecting this forum to Conciliar trolls who really have no business here? Just to create traffic on the forum?

I don't come here to debate Indultarian trolls.

You're free to ignore us Indult Roman Catholics then. We're as much Traditional Catholics as you are, if not more. We just now that, traditionally, Roman Catholics respect BOTH TRADITION AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC MAGISTERIUM!

Everlast22 · « **Reply #102 on:** August 21, 2026, 07:58:46 AM »

Quote from: Telling on August 21, 2026, 07:54:35 AM

We're as much Traditional Catholics as you are, if not more.

No.. You're not.. lol, at least as a collective.

Telling · « **Reply #103 on:** August 21, 2026, 07:59:47 AM »

Back to OP: We've already seen (1) all pre-Vatican Catholic Theologians (2) the Pre-Vatican II 1907 Catholic Encyclopedia (3) Saint Therese and (4) Saint Padre Pio reject the Dimondist interpretation of this issue. Here is a 5th source, (5) Saint John Marie Vianney.

"Father Hermann Cohen's mother died
without receiving Holy Baptism.
In the eyes of the unwise
'she died as an unconverted Jewess'
in spite of the many prayers offered for her by her priestly son.

I have translated the following from his life
which will be of interest for all of us
who pray for souls that seem to live and die
without the grace of conversion.

Note that Fr. Hermann
had consecrated his mother to Our Lady
hundreds of times and offered many prayers for her salvation;
he never lost hope in his mother's cause.
...

A short time later, he confided to the Curé of Ars his disquiet about the death of his poor mother who died without the grace of Baptism. "Hope!" replied the man of God, "hope; you will receive one day, on the feast of the Immaculate Conception a letter that will bring you great consolation."

https://papastronsay.blogspot.com/2011/10/text-of-letter-prophesied-to-father.html

AnthonyPadua · « **Reply #104 on:** August 21, 2026, 08:12:16 AM »

Quote from: Telling on August 21, 2026, 07:59:47 AM

Back to OP: We've already seen (1) all pre-Vatican Catholic Theologians (2) the Pre-Vatican II 1907 Catholic Encyclopedia (3) Saint Therese and (4) Saint Padre Pio reject the Dimondist interpretation of this issue. Here is a 5th source, (5) Saint John Marie Vianney.

And none of those have more AUTHORITY than the quotes by the Popes provided by the Dimonds. Also it's not 'all' theologians, you are very dishonest.

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