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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2026, 09:52:59 AM »
Y'all never prayed for Charlie Kirk and Queen Elizabeth and people like that?

Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2026, 10:02:25 AM »
Y'all never prayed for Charlie Kirk and Queen Elizabeth and people like that?
Kirk publicly denied the Catholic Faith, in front of thousands of spectators and who knows how many online, minutes before his death:

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/t77830/msg999824/#msg999824




Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2026, 10:44:55 AM »
If a soul is deprived of relief due to Catholics following Catholic teaching, then that is simply God's just judgement for that soul. It is not a wish for them to suffer more.
This attitude is very difficult to understand because we are attached to creatures rather than God.

But to put it in the natural perspective, we should desire someone who deserves punishment to receive it. Not due to a twisted glee we receive but because it is what they deserve in the hope to reform them.

Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2026, 10:56:25 AM »
When I first came to tradition many years ago, I was under the impression that we should be praying for everyone and everything no matter what. Sort of like the Godless United States constitution: freedom of speech, press, and religion. We can do and say whatever we want. As long as we have good intentions.

But God made it clear prayers can be said in vain. Is it real justice to use our valuable time God has given to us on earth to pray for the repose of the soul of a public practicing sodomite? As opposed to pray for the repose of the soul of a generous benefactor of a traditional Catholic chapel for 50+ years? Seems like religious indifference to me.

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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2026, 07:32:31 PM »
This applies to PUBLIC prayer.  The Church cannot offer PUBLIC prayers for dead non-catholics.  This would include mass stipends or any public mention of them.

But PRIVATE prayers (not associated with church or public worship) are still allowed.
The quotes provided by the Dimonds state both private and public