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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2026, 05:54:17 AM »
Oops sorry it posted that twice.

Maybe God thought it needed to be repeated.  :laugh2:

Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2026, 06:04:06 AM »
The Church Permits Prayers for the Dead for Everyone.

The Catholic Encyclopedia makes this clear:

“There is no restriction by Divine or ecclesiastical law as to those of the dead for whom private prayer may be offered – except that they may not be offered formally either for the blessed in Heaven or for the damned. Not only for the faithful who have died in external communion with the Church, but for deceased non-Catholics, even the unbaptized, who may have died in the state of grace, one is free to offer his personal prayers and good works; nor does the Church’s prohibition of her public offices for those who have died out of external communion with her affect the strictly personal element in her minister’s acts. For all such she prohibits the public offering of the Sacrifice of the Mass (and of other liturgical offices); but theologians commonly teach that a priest is not forbidden to offer the Mass in private for the repose of the soul of any one who, judging by probable evidence, may be presumed to have died in faith and grace, provided, at least, he does not say the special requiem Mass with the special prayer in which the deceased is named, since this would give the offering a public and official character.” 


Offline Stubborn

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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2026, 06:07:35 AM »
Ok you are to obey with no questioning theses popes?  Then you should obey with no questioning all popes.  If you call them a pope you can't pick and choose at your whim. Laity is not required to do that.

A Pope said not to pray for the dead?  What purpose does that serve?  Who wins if you don't pray?  Who benefits from that request?  Not God, but the devil.  How?  Because then the soul stays in purgatory forever because some laity decided they were in hell.  Go ahead yell at me more because you hate me and I am a woman, but please pray on what I just said before you post again.
AP said popes taught not to pray for deceased non-Catholics, he did not say popes taught not to pray for the dead. 

Offline Gray2023

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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2026, 06:42:52 AM »
AP said popes taught not to pray for deceased non-Catholics, he did not say popes taught not to pray for the dead.
Sorry for not using the right words.  I still think "who does not praying for a non-Catholic serve?"  It doesn't do anything to God, but everything to that soul and that serves the devil.  So there is something wrong.  

Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Praying for the damned increases their suffering?
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2026, 06:59:06 AM »
I knew there was a pope who taught to not pray for those who died outside of the Church, so I asked Magisterium AI:

The pope was St. Gregory the Great (Pope Gregory I, 590–604).

He taught that the Church should not pray for those known with certainty to be damned, comparing this with the fact that Christians do not pray for the devil and his angels. St. Thomas Aquinas quotes Gregory’s Moralia:

“There is the same reason why we do not pray now for the devil and his angels, who are condemned to eternal punishment, as why the saints do not pray now for wicked and unbelieving men who have died, since they know that they are condemned to eternal punishment.”
It was more than 1 Pope.





I would not trust A.I on this.