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Author Topic: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass  (Read 3120 times)

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Re: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 03:38:08 PM »
Sorry but MO is that Pius XII bears no responsibility for the v2 anti-church.... :cheers:

Re: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 08:45:54 AM »
So what's wrong with Mrs. Martinez?  Are her facts "not facts" - or her interpretation wrong?  That aside, there is no denying that Pius XII passed the buck on the Consecration of Russia.  

Our Lady appeared to Sister Lucy at Tuy, Spain, on June 13, 1929, to say that: “The moment has come when God asks the Holy Father to make, in union with all the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means.”

He was Sec. of State under Pius XI.  He knew of Fatima and Our Lady's papal request from the outset, from 1929 on.  Neither Pius did anything.  He also allowed Fr. Feeney to be thrown under the bus (though reaching a rather feeble hand out to reassert that the EENS dogma has, by some, been wrongly made into a "meaningless formula").  

Was World War II his fault?  There would not have been a WWII if Russia had been consecrated.  And that was up to the Pope - eventually, this Pope.  How to explain this ... maybe Mrs. Martinez is right.          


Re: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 12:24:07 PM »
Mrs Martinez version of 'facts' are a fraud....  :sleep: The errors of Russia are no longer being propagated( at least on paper)

It should be remembered that mrs martinez is among those who have attacked Card Rampolla-- who btw consecrated as Bishop Merry Del Val....  


Re: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2017, 03:52:12 PM »
Mrs Martinez version of 'facts' are a fraud....  The errors of Russia are no longer being propagated( at least on paper)

It should be remembered that mrs martinez is among those who have attacked Card Rampolla-- who btw consecrated as Bishop Merry Del Val....  

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Roscoe, are you serious?  Anyone who thinks Russia is still not propagating errors, is still not "secretly" or "privately" still Communist, is naïve.  She won't convert until the Fatima Consecration is made, Our Lady said so - and that Consecration hasn't happened yet. Read "New Lies for Old" by Anatoliy Golitsyn, the ex-KGB officer who predicts what Russia is really up to. 

Meanwhile, yes - let's do attack Cardinal Rampolla.  After his unexpected death, his Masonic papers were found in his room.  Pius X had them burned, calling him "unhappy man."  There was a reason for his being vetoed during the 1903 papal election (called "the veto of the Holy Ghost").  Few knew of his Masonry, but thank God Emperor Franz Joseph did. Roscoe, are you just not that well informed - or are you ... progressive?     

Re: PPXII and The Demise of The Mass
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 03:56:49 PM »
A bunch of CRAP--  It is Franz-Joseph that is the freemason.... :heretic: