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Offline Kephapaulos

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Offline Neil Obstat

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Posters against Francis
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2017, 07:38:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: Kephapaulos
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/pope-francis-serene-after-critical-posters-plastered-around-rome-97406/?client=ms-android-att-us

    The linked article leads off with the following photo:


    Vatican City, Feb 6, 2017 / 10:18 am (CNA/EWTN News).- While the Pope has in the past been depicted as a superhero or peace advocate, this weekend set a much different tone as Rome woke up Saturday to see the walls of the city center plastered with some 200 anti-Pope Francis posters.

    However, after hearing about the posters, the Pope himself was reportedly unfazed, and didn’t make a big deal out of the incident.

    According to Italian news agency ANSA, Pope Francis received the news of the posters with “serenity and detachment.”

    (When you look at the caption you see the date of the image is "Pope Francis at the General Audience in St. Peter's Square, Sept. 21, 2016. Credit: Daniel Ibanez/CNA." That was 5 months ago. Maybe the following one would have been more appropriate)


    "Serenity and detachment?"

    Depicting a dour Pope Francis, the posters read: “Ah Francis, you’ve taken over congregations, removed priests, decapitated the Order of Malta and the Franciscans of the Immaculate, ignored Cardinals…but where’s your mercy?”

    After a short time, many of the posters were covered with signs reading “abusive posting.” The majority of the posters had been taken down by Sunday morning, and as of Monday nary a one was to be seen.

    The brief phrase included on the posters was written in “Romanaccio,” or the Roman dialect, and indicates the culprit is someone who comes from more conservative sectors of the Church, many of whom have been in sharp disagreement with the Pope regarding his decisions and ongoing reform of the Curia.

    By saying the Pope had “decapitated the Order of Malta,” the author was making a clear reference to the Pope’s recent request for the Order’s former Grand Master, Matthew Festing, to resign while ousted Grand Chancellor Albrecht Freiherr von Boeselager be reinstated.

    The reference to taking over congregations and removing priests is likely a reference to recent allegations that Francis had fired three priests from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith with no notice or reason.

    On ignoring cardinals, the point was a clear reference to a letter written to Pope Francis in September, asking for clarification on five points – called “dubia” – in Amoris Laetitia. The letter was subsequently published in November, after the Pope did not respond.

    (Since he has not responded - and it has been 5 months which is plenty of time - the next phase of the dubia initiative might get a little more impressive.)

    The signatories of the letter were American Cardinal Raymond Burke, Patron of the Order of Malta, as well as German Cardinals Walter Brandmüller and Joachim Meisner and Italian Cardinal Carlo Caffarra, all of whom are widely considered to sit on the right of the Church.

    The reference to the Franciscans of the Immaculate referred to the fact that Francis made some changes to the order early on in his pontificate, restricting their use of the Latin Mass used prior to the Second Vatican Council.

    However, while the Pope’s lack of concern over the posters might seem surprising to some, he said in an interview with Italian paper Avvenire in November that he doesn’t “lose sleep” over his critics, and has said on several previous occasions that resistance is a normal part of any reform.

    ("Even complaining to God is a form of prayer," is the stock caption to the second photo, above.)

    In a lengthy speech to members of the Roman Curia Dec. 22, the Pope outlined three different types of resistance, saying the phenomenon is “normal (and) even healthy.”

    He spoke of “open resistance,” which often arises “from good will and sincere dialogue,” but noted that there is also a type of “hidden resistance” that comes from “fearful or petrified hearts content with the empty rhetoric of a complacent spiritual reform.”

    These are the people “who verbally say they are ready for change, but want everything to stay as it was before,” he said.

    However, the Pope also highlighted a third type of resistance, which he said is a “malicious resistance, which often sprouts in misguided minds and appears when the devil inspires bad intentions.”

    This type of resistance, he said, frequently “hides behind words of self-justification and often accusation; it takes refuge in traditions, appearances, formalities, in the familiar, or else in a desire to make everything personal, failing to distinguish between the act, the actor and the action.”

    An absence of a reaction “is the sign of death,” he said, and because of this “good resistances – and even those not as good – are necessary and merit being listened to, welcomed and encouraged to express themselves.”

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    Matthew should be glad to hear that Francis says that the Resistance is normal, even healthy -- necessary and merits being listened to, welcomed and encouraged to express themselves.

    Here's a picture of Pope Francis having a practice session for doing an exorcism:



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    Offline Cantarella

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    « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 12:04:57 AM »
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  • Someone from Rome said that the text in the posters was not written in Italian language but in a type of a Roman "dialect", the vernacular of the city of Rome. This is interesting, as expressing in this dialect denotes a familiarity not appropriate to address a superior authority.  In the case of a Pope, it is considered quite disrespectful and rude. Unthinkable in previous times.

    The people of Rome do not respect the Bishop of Rome.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

    Offline Nadir

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    « Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 03:50:06 PM »
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  • Correct. The article says as much:
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    The brief phrase included on the posters was written in “Romanaccio,” or the Roman dialect, and indicates the culprit is someone who comes from more conservative sectors of the Church, many of whom have been in sharp disagreement with the Pope regarding his decisions and ongoing reform of the Curia.


    Of course, most of us would have a similar sentiment, each in our own lingo.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.