Author Topic: Possibly the worst topic ever created at CAF (Read 6426 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **on:** February 16, 2011, 04:36:17 PM »

Think you've seen the worst that CAF has to offer? Think again. The person who started this thread claims he is not a modernist. Yeah right. Take a look.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=535983

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:09:24 PM »

Reject the Faith while claiming you don't, just don't mention Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:36:13 PM »

You heard people saying stuff like that long before Modernism. That's just relativism, weak faith, humanism, whatever you want to call it.

You can't hold it agains the website that someone comes on and is a relativist. But the scary thing is that only one person on the entire first page took him to task and corrected him.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:49:04 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

You heard people saying stuff like that long before Modernism. That's just relativism, weak faith, humanism, whatever you want to call it.

You can't hold it agains the website that someone comes on and is a relativist. But the scary thing is that only one person on the entire first page took him to task and corrected him.

The point Raoul is that they will quickly ban anyone who explains how that liberal modernists' position is in fact the position of the New "Church."

Or anyone who mentions Freemasons or Jєωs.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:17:04 PM »

They are arch-conservatives there compared to some of the NOs I've met in real life, sad to say.

Jehanne · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:27:25 PM »

Heretic. I cannot mention what I think should happen to him if we were having this conversation 600 years ago.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2011, 08:31:54 AM »

Sadly, this is the attitude of many young NO Catholics I know. I want to emphasize this. We have some very good friends, Godparents to two of our children, that basically abandoned us when we left NO for SSPX. Mind you, these people are very traditional in their way of thinking, but they are also very modernist. It took me a long time to see that. They have children similar in ages to our own and they are friends. Their oldest son is 20. He has long declared that there is really no "right" religion, that all religions are a path to God. This family goes to Mass every Sunday. They take the whole family to Confession. They are daily Mass goers during Lent. They pray a family Rosary. Yet there oldest son believes all religions are equal, the 3rd son, who had desired to become a priest, doesn't see the necessity of the priesthood, and their two daughters are altar "servers."

Sadly, I think this is the prevailing attitude among Catholics in the NO. They really like it there yet they don't realize that their children will abandon it.

We know another NO family with 5 children. These parents have sacrificed a lot to send all 5 children to Catholic schools for 12 years. 1 son has married a Prot and they don't go to Church at all. He has no problem with that. Another son "converted" to Presbyterian or something like that. One daughter is a lesbian who lives with her "girl friend." I mention this because I just spoke to the wife in the supermarket. She and her husband are just beside themselves and they don't understand why this is so.

The only family member I have that is Catholic is my mother's cousin who is 80. She has 8 children. I only know of 1 who goes to Mass on a regular basis.

Modernism is very dangerous to the souls of Catholics.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2011, 08:51:42 AM »

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She and her husband are just beside themselves and they don't understand why this is so.

Tell her, as gently and charitably as you can, that the reason is that she and her family are part of a counterfeit religion that offers heresies, false doctrines and profane parodies of the sacraments. Tell her that this is the fruit of indifferentism, which is precisely what is espoused by the conciliar concepts of religious freedom, freedom of conscience and the denial that the Holy Church, and she alone, is the Church of Christ outside of which there is not salvation. When an institution rejects and rescinds the supernatural moral authority as the sole purveyor and interpreter of truth, it loses its right and its ability to correct the immoral actions of its members. The concupiscence of man, given already to pride and rebellion in its first principle, naturally takes this supposed liberty and descends into licentiousness. There is no mystery in the behavior of the woman's children.

Quote from: CathMomof7

Modernism is very dangerous to the souls of Catholics.

Modernism, like all heresies, has only one goal: the deification of man (in rebellion). The result, in all cases, is the destruction of faith; the corruption of chastity, of community, of supernatural discernment, of vocation; defamation of the Holy Chuch; and, above all, blasphemy against Our Lord and His Sacrifice.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2011, 02:07:06 PM »

Raoul pretty much hit the nail on the head. Only one person told him off. I find it rather surprising that the libs there didn't jump all over her for her comment. When I was posting there, every time that I or any other Traditionalist would make a remark speaking out against modernism and the NO the modernists would swarm in and cut us down like crazy. Though really, in this situation I CAN hold it against the web-site. CAF is owned by a neo-con and the moderators there are clowns. They usually will only ban Traditionalists. The only time they ban the NO Catholics is when they commit a big violation against the forum's rules.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2011, 02:54:13 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Raoul pretty much hit the nail on the head. Only one person told him off. I find it rather surprising that the libs there didn't jump all over her for her comment. When I was posting there, every time that I or any other Traditionalist would make a remark speaking out against modernism and the NO the modernists would swarm in and cut us down like crazy. Though really, in this situation I CAN hold it against the web-site. CAF is owned by a neo-con and the moderators there are clowns. They usually will only ban Traditionalists. The only time they ban the NO Catholics is when they commit a big violation against the forum's rules.

This is because as a conciliarist you can call into question any previous dogma as being open to historical revision, but show the impertinence of decrying the Apostate Council and the revolutions it engendered and you are nothing but an intolerable troublemaker.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:13:41 PM »

Quote from: JohnGrey

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Raoul pretty much hit the nail on the head. Only one person told him off. I find it rather surprising that the libs there didn't jump all over her for her comment. When I was posting there, every time that I or any other Traditionalist would make a remark speaking out against modernism and the NO the modernists would swarm in and cut us down like crazy. Though really, in this situation I CAN hold it against the web-site. CAF is owned by a neo-con and the moderators there are clowns. They usually will only ban Traditionalists. The only time they ban the NO Catholics is when they commit a big violation against the forum's rules.

This is because as a conciliarist you can call into question any previous dogma as being open to historical revision, but show the impertinence of decrying the Apostate Council and the revolutions it engendered and you are nothing but an intolerable troublemaker.

Wait, are you calling me a troublemaker or a modernist in general?

JohnGrey · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:17:20 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

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Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Raoul pretty much hit the nail on the head. Only one person told him off. I find it rather surprising that the libs there didn't jump all over her for her comment. When I was posting there, every time that I or any other Traditionalist would make a remark speaking out against modernism and the NO the modernists would swarm in and cut us down like crazy. Though really, in this situation I CAN hold it against the web-site. CAF is owned by a neo-con and the moderators there are clowns. They usually will only ban Traditionalists. The only time they ban the NO Catholics is when they commit a big violation against the forum's rules.

This is because as a conciliarist you can call into question any previous dogma as being open to historical revision, but show the impertinence of decrying the Apostate Council and the revolutions it engendered and you are nothing but an intolerable troublemaker.

Wait, are you calling me a troublemaker or a modernist in general?

Er, neither. The "you" is the abstract one. It would've been more correct to say that "as a conciliarist one can..."

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:17:59 PM »

Quote from: JohnGrey

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Quote from: JohnGrey
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Raoul pretty much hit the nail on the head. Only one person told him off. I find it rather surprising that the libs there didn't jump all over her for her comment. When I was posting there, every time that I or any other Traditionalist would make a remark speaking out against modernism and the NO the modernists would swarm in and cut us down like crazy. Though really, in this situation I CAN hold it against the web-site. CAF is owned by a neo-con and the moderators there are clowns. They usually will only ban Traditionalists. The only time they ban the NO Catholics is when they commit a big violation against the forum's rules.

This is because as a conciliarist you can call into question any previous dogma as being open to historical revision, but show the impertinence of decrying the Apostate Council and the revolutions it engendered and you are nothing but an intolerable troublemaker.

Wait, are you calling me a troublemaker or a modernist in general?

Er, neither. The "you" is the abstract one. It would've been more correct to say that "as a conciliarist one can..."

Ok, just checking. You're good. :wink:

Jehanne · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:23:59 PM »

Quote from: CathMomof7

Modernism is very dangerous to the souls of Catholics.

Which is why Catholic society for centuries, burned such individuals, not only for the salvation of the heretic's soul, but for the salvation of others. Of course, the heresy of religious freedom and its bastard offspring of religious indifferentism, tolerance, subjectivism, existentialism, universalism, etc., will not be obvious to all until the Last Judgment. Until then...

Exilenomore · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2011, 03:59:40 AM »

Let us pray that God will lead people away from such blasphemy.