Author Topic: Archbishop Lefebvre on Sedevacantism (Read 34168 times)

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #205 on:** March 04, 2011, 02:58:57 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Of course the libs don't think so, they act as if JPII was perfect.

Astonishingly they don't! The Neo-Caths (conservative Novus Ordites) think he was perfect. The kooky libs actually think he was too conservative because he cracked down on politician priests and made them give up their office (often socialist/ lib ones in Latin America and US), he refused to allow married priests, refused to allow birth control, would not legally allow for intercommunion of Prots, too strict on abortion and euthanasia and stem cells, etc. etc....

LM · « **Reply #206 on:** March 04, 2011, 03:58:16 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Of course the libs don't think so, they act as if JPII was perfect.

Astonishingly they don't! The Neo-Caths (conservative Novus Ordites) think he was perfect. The kooky libs actually think he was too conservative because he cracked down on politician priests and made them give up their office (often socialist/ lib ones in Latin America and US), he refused to allow married priests, refused to allow birth control, would not legally allow for intercommunion of Prots, too strict on abortion and euthanasia and stem cells, etc. etc....

I disagree, they don't believe he was perfect. What they do is regulate his un-Catholic words/actions to just some type of "unforseen" circuмstance and blind themselves to the truth that his papacy and legacy are a disaster to the Faith.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #207 on:** March 04, 2011, 05:00:11 PM »

Yeah I never said they literally thought he was perfect, I said they acted as though they thought he was.

I pretty much agree with everything Raoul has said on this issue. There is no overlooking what JPII did. His actions show he was a modernist. He may have took up for the unborn but that is not enough to label him as a true conservative. Besides, he obviously knew that if he did not take up for the unborn then a large amount of people would begin to question his Papacy do to contradicting the Church's teaching that abortion is wrong. Of course, he also contradicted the Church's teaching that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, but due to the fact that Vatican II changed that and not the teachings on abortion, it would be easier for even the less-alert Catholic to detect that something is wrong if he had said abortion was ok.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #208 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:48:10 PM »