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Possible Roman scheme against the SSPX
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2011, 09:02:33 PM »
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The chastisement is a done deal, we've already been garaunteed there will be one. Yes I agree we shouldn't just sit around, but to say the crisis will be resolved (or will be closer to being resolved) once the SSPX is recognized by the Novus Ordo community is incorrect. The NO community needs to recognize Tradition itself, that's what is important.


Do you understand what the word "contingent" means?  These prophecies of chastisement have been with us since the very beginning, in Old Testament times up to the present.  Do you think the world and the Church would be chastised if the members therein were obeying God's Law?  No, it wouldn't and that is what we are to work towards.  The juridical recognition of the SSPX is a step towards that goal.  For example, rooting out the toxic doctrine and practice of ecuмenism will be a great boon for the Church, who else would do that but the Society priests?  Their voice is suppressed and considered irrelevant because they are allegedly "irregular".  Whether you like it or not, jurdical recognition is a necessary component in this process of restoring the Church.  You're putting words into my mouth viz. the magical resolution of the crisis.  


Yes, the chastisement is due to the actions of man. But the point I'm trying to make is God said the great chastisement will come. This world has so much evil right now that only God can completely reverse it. The evil isn't in just the Church, it's pretty much worldwide.

Possible Roman scheme against the SSPX
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2011, 09:03:53 PM »
Gregory, I think you should read the first post of this thread, containing Padre Pio's words on the real chastisement.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=13786&f=12&min=0&num=10


Possible Roman scheme against the SSPX
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2011, 09:05:39 PM »
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The chastisement is a done deal, we've already been garaunteed there will be one. Yes I agree we shouldn't just sit around, but to say the crisis will be resolved (or will be closer to being resolved) once the SSPX is recognized by the Novus Ordo community is incorrect. The NO community needs to recognize Tradition itself, that's what is important.

By the way, I really feel what Blackie posted a page or two back about Bishop Williamson should be deleted. That was one of the dumbest things I have ever read, and by posting such a thing he seems to be implying +Williamson is not even a member of the Catholic Church.


SS, I think Blackie was quoting text from Benedict XVI's book, Light of the World.

I feel the same distress at those words, however.


And Benedict's words are not dumb like they may appear to be on the surface. You can be certain that what he writes is weighed and calculated.

Ratzinger remains a cunning Modernist.

Possible Roman scheme against the SSPX
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2011, 09:22:22 PM »
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The chastisement is a done deal, we've already been garaunteed there will be one. Yes I agree we shouldn't just sit around, but to say the crisis will be resolved (or will be closer to being resolved) once the SSPX is recognized by the Novus Ordo community is incorrect. The NO community needs to recognize Tradition itself, that's what is important.

By the way, I really feel what Blackie posted a page or two back about Bishop Williamson should be deleted. That was one of the dumbest things I have ever read, and by posting such a thing he seems to be implying +Williamson is not even a member of the Catholic Church.


SS, I think Blackie was quoting text from Benedict XVI's book, Light of the World.

I feel the same distress at those words, however.


And Benedict's words are not dumb like they may appear to be on the surface. You can be certain that what he writes is weighed and calculated.

Ratzinger remains a cunning Modernist.


(munning) conartist is more accurate  yeh i know the spelling is off

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Possible Roman scheme against the SSPX
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2011, 10:25:47 PM »
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The chastisement is a done deal, we've already been garaunteed there will be one. Yes I agree we shouldn't just sit around, but to say the crisis will be resolved (or will be closer to being resolved) once the SSPX is recognized by the Novus Ordo community is incorrect. The NO community needs to recognize Tradition itself, that's what is important.

By the way, I really feel what Blackie posted a page or two back about Bishop Williamson should be deleted. That was one of the dumbest things I have ever read, and by posting such a thing he seems to be implying +Williamson is not even a member of the Catholic Church.


SS, I think Blackie was quoting text from Benedict XVI's book, Light of the World.

I feel the same distress at those words, however.


I know, but the first thing he said in his post was "Bishop Williamson is the issue" then proceeded to post crapolla from Benedict's book on how +Williamson isn't really a member of the Chuch.


"The Light of the World" -- what an ironic title, no?

Anyhow, Blackie only got 8 thumbs down for it --

Has anyone here not voted on the post yet?

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15954&min=30&num=10#p3

Of course, his reputation is "2" at the moment, so only 6 more downvotes and he'll be at zero.