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Offline hollingsworth

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« on: November 21, 2013, 02:42:04 PM »
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  • I don’t think that many of us yet realize how tight Bergoglio is with the Jєωs.  He is, without stretching the truth, a Jєω-centered pope.  No other description better characterizes him, or shows better where his allegiances really lie.  His predecessors just played about the edges of modern Judaism relatively speaking.  But Bergoglio is all in.  He’s a card-carrying ʝʊdɛօphile.   Rabbi Skorka gives us insight into the slavish devotion of this pope to judaism and Jєωιѕн multicultural concerns.  He makes no apologies.  He is absolutely one with Christ’s greatest and most pernicious enemies, the Jєωs.
       
    Read the linked article just to get some idea of how close the Jєωs and Bergoglio are to one another. Following are a few passages from that article just to whet your appetite:

    “Bergoglio kept a framed photo of the two of them (Skorka and himself)  in his study. At Skorka's ѕуηαgσgυє, the rabbi displayed a greeting the cardinal made to the congregation on one of his Rosh Hashana visits….

    "….There is overall a very deep respect for the other," Skorka said. "His commitment with the Jєωιѕн people is total…."

    “Francis gave the rabbi an email address to use so they could stay in touch, and they exchange emails every week or 10 days….”

    “That's how Skorka ended up as a guest for several days last September in the Casa Santa Marta, the hotel Francis chose as his home so he wouldn't be isolated in the Apostolic Palace…”
    Modern тαℓмυdic Judaism and neo-Catholicism are virtually the same religions.

    http://news.yahoo.com/rabbi-whose-good-friend-became-pope-060646630.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons


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    « Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 02:48:52 PM »
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  • The Novus Ordo has always been enslaved to the Jєωs. The Jєωιѕн Rabbis are the masters of the Novus Ordo.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 02:54:20 PM »
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  • "Apostateicus maximux" at Vatican dot com.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 07:51:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: hollingsworth

    “Francis gave the rabbi an email address to use so they could stay in touch, and they exchange emails every week or 10 days….”




    Probably so the Jєω can proofread Francis' speeches and grant him Nihil Obstats.

     
    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jєωs have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jєω adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."

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    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 08:16:07 PM »
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  • I dismissed JPII's Jєωphillia because he was a liberal Polish intellectual that lived through WW2. I dismissed B16 because he was guilt tripped by the post WW2 "Germans are Jєω killers" propaganda.

    But Bishop of Rome Francis? He's an Italian who grew up in Argentina, not exactly an Israel 2.0 like Poland. Not exactly a place known for killing 6 quadrillion Jєωs. How could he have developed such an intimate relationship with the ѕуηαgσgυє? It doesn't make any sense! If not apathetic, he should at least treat the Jєωs like "one of the guys" in the big great ecuмenical religion. But to have this kind of connection? Suspicious, yes, but I just can't wrap my head around it. I could understand if His Humbleness had connections to Marxists (Liberation theology) or Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, but Judaism? Strange.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 11:08:38 PM »
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  • Where did this love for "Jєωs" come from anyway?

    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?

    Even among Christians, it seems if you say anything unfavorable about the Jєω they'll jump to THEIR defense.


    Pope should be trying to convert them and save their souls.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 11:25:41 PM »
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    Where did this love for "Jєωs" come from anyway?

    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?

    Even among Christians, it seems if you say anything unfavorable about the Jєω they'll jump to THEIR defense.


    Pope should be trying to convert them and save their souls.


    This.

    (And my signature line)



    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jєωs have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jєω adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."

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    « Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 02:25:52 PM »
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    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?



    Tell me your understanding of the relationship of Judaism and Christianity isn't this simplistic.

    We know that it does not avail one to accept the Father and reject the Son...but why this always goes directly to 'worshiping other Gods' is beyond me.  The identity of the God of Abraham did not change at the incarnation, His revelation of Himself was completed.  This requires a bit more nuance than 'they worship another God'.

    Try 'they pray to the same God, but fruitlessly because they lack the Son' if you want...that at least maintains something of correct theology.    



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    « Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 05:28:44 PM »
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    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?



    Tell me your understanding of the relationship of Judaism and Christianity isn't this simplistic.

    We know that it does not avail one to accept the Father and reject the Son...but why this always goes directly to 'worshiping other Gods' is beyond me.  The identity of the God of Abraham did not change at the incarnation, His revelation of Himself was completed.  This requires a bit more nuance than 'they worship another God'.

    Try 'they pray to the same God, but fruitlessly because they lack the Son' if you want...that at least maintains something of correct theology.    



    "No man can come to me, except the Father, who hath sent me, draw him; and I will raise him up in the last day. It is written in the prophets: And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard of the Father, and hath learned, cometh to me. Not that any man hath seen the Father; but he who is of God, he hath seen the Father. Amen, amen I say unto you: He that believeth in me, hath everlasting life." -John 6:44-46

     Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.
     If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him, and you have seen him.
    John 14:6-


    So someone is lying. Is a half-truth, truth?
    Or are now going to define (a' la Clinton) "What is fullness of truth?"

    No sir. The "practicing" Jєωs of today do not worship God.





    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jєωs have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jєω adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."

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    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 05:34:10 PM »
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    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?



    Tell me your understanding of the relationship of Judaism and Christianity isn't this simplistic.

    We know that it does not avail one to accept the Father and reject the Son...but why this always goes directly to 'worshiping other Gods' is beyond me.  The identity of the God of Abraham did not change at the incarnation, His revelation of Himself was completed.  This requires a bit more nuance than 'they worship another God'.

    Try 'they pray to the same God, but fruitlessly because they lack the Son' if you want...that at least maintains something of correct theology.    



    This is something that I am trying to wrap my head around.  Although they are not worshipping a pagan god, objectively speaking they can not be worshiping the Father either.  The reason why I say this is because Christ says that if one rejects Him, he also rejects the Father.  How does a person worship what he/she rejects?  Rejecting is the opposite of worshiping.  Someone may think they are worshiping God, but objectively speaking, are they?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 09:17:07 AM »
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    People try to say they're brothers in faith, pray to the same God. But they reject Christ, had him crucified and its all clearly laid out in the Bible. They outright mock and hate our Lord but demand respect?



    Tell me your understanding of the relationship of Judaism and Christianity isn't this simplistic.

    We know that it does not avail one to accept the Father and reject the Son...but why this always goes directly to 'worshiping other Gods' is beyond me.  The identity of the God of Abraham did not change at the incarnation, His revelation of Himself was completed.  This requires a bit more nuance than 'they worship another God'.

    Try 'they pray to the same God, but fruitlessly because they lack the Son' if you want...that at least maintains something of correct theology.    



    The best way to describe the stance of the Jєωs is that they deny God because Our Lord is God.

    It is also true to say that the Jєωs betray Our Lord in the days of His Earthly mission and they betray Our Lord in these days in their anti-Catholic and anti-humanity activities which is exhibited in their full throated love of passing pro-abortion and pro-divorce laws in any land where they reside.  

    Our Lord told the Jєωs, I.e., the Pharisees, that they did not know God and the Jєωs of today are following on that same path so let us clear all confusion from our heads and fully realize that the Jєωιѕн people will always be enemies of Our Lord and His Church unless they repent and convert but without stringing along their rancid hatreds.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 23, 2013, 09:26:07 AM »
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  • A word of advice:

    When the topic title has the word "Pope" in it -- I'd say it's a safe bet it belongs in the "Crisis in the Church" sub-forum.

    Please don't post everything in General Discussion. Posting everything in one sub-forum might work with a very low-traffic forum, but that hasn't described CathInfo for a very, very long time.

    I can barely find things even when everything is posted in the right sub-forum...
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