Author Topic: Pope St. Pius X (Read 3155 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #15 on:** August 18, 2010, 05:53:11 PM »

Quote from: CM

Quote from: Trinity
Lies left unchallenged remain in effect.

I have not lied. I have posted what the man really said. You simply disagree with the conclusion I have come to as a result. But you are wrong to say I have lied.

It may not be lies, but it's nonsense and insanity. You constantly posts quotes from Pius X in an attempt to "prove" he was an anti-pope, when in doing so you only make yourself appear to be on a lower level of religious knowledge then most other people here. While you're probably a nice guy in real life and all, you take sedevacanism to the extreme, thus why I call people like you extremists. I looked at your blog yesterday just to see what you wrote about and you wrote a full article condemning Pius X and calling him an anti-pope throughout the entire article. What's perhaps more amazing is that you call yourself sedevacanist yet you called the Dimond Brothers "lying heretics" on your blog. That's so interesting, because 9 out of 10 sedes love the Dimond Brothers.

Have you ever once stopped to think that just maybe you're taking sedevacanism to an extreme level that is unnecessary? I mean really. "Pius X was no good, the Dimond Brothers are no good, the SSPX is no good" etc. What else is there then if nothing else is good?

(By the way, this wasn't a post to defend the Dimond Brothers, as I am not sedevacanist, I'm just making a point.)

roscoe · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:55:41 AM »

I agree w/ Card Newman. :smoke-pot: :wine-drinking: although I imagine that to delve into history one would cease to be a Moor, Judaic or any other Vacante as well.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2010, 06:44:23 AM »

Quote from: crashnet

I see so much of myself in CM. My guess is he is very young. Probably still in his 20's, unmarried, and spends hours on the internet reading about theology.

His reading has brought him to the point that he now thinks the last valid pope died 132 years ago. I will predict that he will end up like me and abandon the faith altogether.

John Henry Newman said that to be deep into history was to cease to be protestant. I found out that to be deep into history, was to stop being a believer.

crashnet,

Have you come back to the Faith?

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2010, 07:27:44 AM »

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That's so interesting, because 9 out of 10 sedes love the Dimond Brothers.

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I think you're exaggerating or your numbers are skewed. Off of the top of my head, counting myself as well, I can think of six Sedes on this forum who do not "love" the Dimonds, myself, Gladius, Trinity, Myna, Dawn, and Emerentiana. These are the first six that came to mind, so my figures show that six out of six Sedes dislike the Dimonds.

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:wave: If you are correct about the others here; make that 7 out of 7 so far here.

Many sedes do not agree with the Dimonds.

PS: I love the Dimonds in the sense that I have Catholic charity, hoping for their salvation.

But I do not agree with many of their assertions. I do not love in toto what they write, or they do, or they stand for.

There is something seriously wrong with them.

Cheryl · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2010, 08:07:58 AM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: Cheryl

That's so interesting, because 9 out of 10 sedes love the Dimond Brothers.

I think you're exaggerating or your numbers are skewed. Off of the top of my head, counting myself as well, I can think of six Sedes on this forum who do not "love" the Dimonds, myself, Gladius, Trinity, Myna, Dawn, and Emerentiana. These are the first six that came to mind, so my figures show that six out of six Sedes dislike the Dimonds.

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:wave: If you are correct about the others here; make that 7 out of 7 so far here.

Many sedes do not agree with the Dimonds.

PS: I love the Dimonds in the sense that I have Catholic charity, hoping for their salvation.

But I do not agree with many of their assertions. I do not love in toto what they write, or they do, or they stand for.

There is something seriously wrong with them.

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Oops, so sorry RC. Sorry for the oversight. I stand corrected, seven out of seven Sedes don't "love" the Dimonds.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2010, 08:09:41 AM »

Quote from: Cheryl

That's so interesting, because 9 out of 10 sedes love the Dimond Brothers.
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I think you're exaggerating or your numbers are skewed. Off of the top of my head, counting myself as well, I can think of six Sedes on this forum who do not "love" the Dimonds, myself, Gladius, Trinity, Myna, Dawn, and Emerentiana. These are the first six that came to mind, so my figures show that six out of six Sedes dislike the Dimonds.[/quote]

Thank you Cheryl, I was just thinking, what to post about that claim. You said it just right! Those brothers give Sedes a bad name. The :devil2: tool

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2010, 08:43:10 AM »

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Oops, so sorry RC. Sorry for the oversight. I stand corrected, seven out of seven Sedes don't "love" the Dimonds.

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:smile: That's ok. I had not mentioned my views before on this forum about the Dimonds, not that I would have expected that you or anyone else should have remembered anyway even if I had.

I was just piping up now to support your statement that many sedes do not "love" the Dimonds.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2010, 07:26:48 PM »

Quote from: CM

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
You constantly posts quotes from Pius X

I may have posted his quote once, maybe it was twice. The only thing "constant" has been my assertion that I believe my position is correct.

Quote from: SS
Have you ever once stopped to think that just maybe you're taking sedevacanism to an extreme level that is unnecessary?

I always keep my mind open to possibilities and close only it on those supported, not by emotionalism or fallacies, but by solid arguments.

Admittedly it did seem to make more sense when I thought Pius X was the last valid Pontiff.

But here is an interesting thought that has occurred to me:

Quote from: The Leonine Prayer to St. Michael
In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the see of the Most holy peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Present perfect tense with a past participle!? Why have I never wondered about this before?

Was Leo XIII a Mason who was mocking Catholics? Where is the best place to hide? Out in the open. Who would suspect him if he had written well against their doctrines and societies?

Undeniably it would be a clever plan, and the "in your face" of it all fits perfectly well into the Masonic design (think chemtrails for example).

Why else is there a constant theme of "God the Father of all men" with him? And no it is not only "Father means Creator", otherwise he would never have said what he did in paragraph 25 of Rerum Novarum?

Quote from: That paragraph, in part,
If sons, heirs also; heirs indeed of God, and co-heirs with Christ

And it is this very encyclical that Pius X quotes, and in which he is clearly talking about Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

God is not that kind of Father to non-Catholics, even if you want to argue He is Father of all in the sense of Creator. There is a clear progression from here to Vatican II, which can be traced right through the line of papal claimants, in their writings and speeches, up to and including Pius XII (and beyond, for those who actually think these guys are popes).

Quote from: SS
(By the way, this wasn't a post to defend the Dimond Brothers, as I am not sedevacanist, I'm just making a point.)

I understand.

I have a question: Who is there reading this thread who takes issue with the term "separated brethren" in regard to Protestants?

1.- I believe you've posted quotes from Pius X atleast 4 times within the last month.

2.- You know, people didn't always understand what Jesus meant. I think the same thing applies to Pius X, even though there is a difference there. What I'm saying is that perhaps you are misunderstanding Pius X when apparently implies that God is the Father of every single human being.

3.- Do I take issue with the term "separated bretheren" when applied to Protestants? Yes and no. We were all Catholic at one time, so I can see where the term separated bretheren would come in. However, Vatican II took that too far. They acted as if it was the fault of Catholics that the Protestants are our "separated bretheren". That's why they created the Novus Ordo, to draw us closer to the Protestants (and other religions as well, actually). Catholics are nothing like Protestants, the only huge similarity being that they both worship Christ (though some Protestants are actually freemasons who are just claiming to be Christian).