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Author Topic: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.  (Read 51350 times)

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Offline Meg

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2025, 05:04:20 PM »


Yes, it will be good for those who love to see disunity and argumentation.

That being said, this new forum member obviously sees JP2 as a saint, and also values what Pope Francis says. But you should be happy about that. After all, you keep saying that we have to obey the Pope if we believe that he is the Pope. So, shouldn't you be agreeing with EternalKeys?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2025, 05:07:46 PM »
EternalKeys is undoubtedly Nishant / XavierSem returned after his 10th banning, since who else would respond to an old response I made to him on a necrotized thread?


Offline Meg

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2025, 05:10:16 PM »
EternalKeys is undoubtedly Nishant / XavierSem returned after his 10th banning, since who else would respond to an old response I made to him on a necrotized thread?

But....both you and Johannes have said that we should obey Pope Francis if we really believe that he is the pope. Shouldn't you praise EternalKeys/XavierSem for doing just that?
After all, he's just following your (and Johannes') continual directions to us dumb R&R folk.

Offline Meg

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2025, 05:25:46 PM »
Well, he has more honesty than you, so I respect that. But no - of course I don't agree with him - JP2 was another, "Beast of the Apocalypse who is sitting on the Throne of Peter, crouching like a lion ready to devour his prey" (St. Bernard). But for you - he (JP2) was your Holy Father, the Vicar of Jesus Christ - Successor to the Prince of the Apostles and the sure guarantee of orthodoxy for the Church and your living rule of faith - just like Francis.

But you have said over and over and over again that if we believe that Francis is the Pope, then we must obey him. You can't have it both ways. Eternal Keys is doing exactly as you have said that we must do. You cannot, then, disagree with him.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2025, 05:28:29 PM »
But....both you and Johannes have said that we should obey Pope Francis if we really believe that he is the pope. Shouldn't you praise EternalKeys/XavierSem for doing just that?
After all, he's just following your (and Johannes') continual directions to us dumb R&R folk.

OK, so the point you're missing here is that I was actually rebuking Nishant Xaiver Fem as NOT actually obeying His Holiness Jorge.  Bergoglio gave strict orders that he was not to proselytize, and yet that's what Nishant is here doing.  He then claimed that these Antipopes encourage evangelization, but what Nishant is doing here is how those Apostates define proselytism, not evangelization.

How dare Nishant come on here disrespectfully attacking our religion and attempting to convert us to the Conciliar religion?  That's the proselytism condemned by Jorge.  See, His Council Vatican II taugh that he should have "esteem" and "respect" for the separated brethren.  Instead he comes on here hurly nasty words, calling us names like "heretics" and "schismatics".  For shame, Xavier Fem Nishant, for disobeying your Papas, un-St. John Paul II the Great Apostate and un-St. Sodomite Montini ... and Jorge "Who am I to judge?" Bergoglio with his greatest hits like the "Recyclical" and the "Joy of Sex" Missive.

I might respect him for being consistent, but the point is that he's disobeying his "Saint" Popes.  If you went onto a forum of Greek Orthodox, Xavier Fem, deriding them as heretics and schismatics, and telling them to convert, what would Your Holy Jorge have to say about that, eh?

We are "offended" by your malicious derision of our "faith Tradition", Nishant, and we demand an apology, and your submission to the teachings of Jorge.