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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2024, 08:07:25 AM »
Total fallacies, lies and misrepresentations as usual. Will address them later.

No, it’s all true. You just don’t want to acknowledge the truth. Paul the sick, JPII, Ratzinger, and Bergoglio all loved to promote indifferentism and reject the true Catholic teaching regarding EENS.

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2024, 08:10:50 AM »
Just a passing word for now: the below is the schedule Xavier shared on X for the next 2 years. 1st book completed:



I counsel you, Quo, to do some reading and look up CCC 161 (necessity of Christ for Salvation) and CCC 846-848. It reiterates the same definition of EENS as found in the Holy Office Letter and Baltimore Catechism: "Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church is necessary for salvation ... Whoever therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, refuses to enter or remain within Her, cannot be saved". As even Ladislaus has admitted, this is the same formulation as in Suprema Haec which V2 cites.


Offline St Giles

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Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2024, 08:49:32 AM »
Do you have a point?  You think you're doxing me or something, you malicious heretic?  While I have referred to this letter myself before, your obvious intention to dox out of malice should result in your immediate banning.  You will be reported for this.  You feign sanctimonious piety all the time, but it's a lie just like everything else you post.  I'm also going to go on X and call you out for malicious doxing on another forum to show your "followers" who you really are.

Not sure how many times I've had to explain to your low-IQ and/or dishonest brain that I'm a sedeprivationist and not a sedevancantist.  I've referred to this letter before and explained its history.  I wrote this as a letter to a friend who had asked me why I had backed away from straight sedevacantism.  This was never intended for publication but somehow got over to The Angelus and they published it without my permission or knowledge ... and even made some edits, including some faulty translations.  It didn't even have my name on it, which they added ... but spelled wrong.  They knew where I was and could have easily reached out to me.

In any case, this started me on my journey away from SVism toward sedeprivationism.  Interestingly, then-Father Sanborn, whom I had left just before this I wrote this, ended up in the same place by a different route.  You'll notice that this is not an endorsement of R&R, which The Angelus took it to be, engaging in false dichotomy, something you do all the time, just an expression of my difficulties with straight SVism, which was in fact my original title, or, rather, subject line,  ... which I still hold to and continue to argue when I debate straight SVs on CI here.
What's the difference between sedeprivationism and sedevacantism. I've never kept up with all these different flavors of sede. What caught my attention though, is the last paragraph (the only one I read) that MarkM posted from the Angelus. How are you any different now than you claim sedevacantism made you? I still see the bad fruits of sedevacantism in you.


Answered in the other thread. No one wants to discuss Pope-sifting and the OP article itself I see. :laugh1: That's fine.
You post 3 times more per day on average than the next highest averaging poster I know of, which is Ladislaus, who often posts several replies to one post instead of multi quoting.

Maybe you should get a life. If this is your life, I don't think it's going to work. You post so much crap so fast that its a waste of your time because nobody is going to read it all, because just half of it is already a huge waste of their time. It would be much more productive to get out and make a change rather than throwing ideas around that don't accomplish much of anything.

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2024, 10:02:41 AM »
Answered in the other thread. No one wants to discuss Pope-sifting and the OP article itself I see. :laugh1: That's fine.
Because you're the nutter we sometimes end up sitting next to on the bus. 

Offline Meg

Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2024, 10:05:04 AM »
Answered in the other thread. No one wants to discuss Pope-sifting and the OP article itself I see. :laugh1: That's fine.

How are you going to convert a million Hindus and Muslims by spending so much time posting irrelevant content here?