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Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2025, 05:40:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 21, 2025, 05:37:27 PM
    You're going to force me to be blunt with this stupidity.  Meg, you're a complete moron that does nothing but make driveby comments against SVism without a single iota of substance or a single argument ever made.  You have some deeply-rooted psychological problems related to sedevacantism.  Were you molested by a sedevacantist priest or something?

    Just to explain your idiocy.

    Ladislaus ... criticzes Nishant for not obeying his V2 popes.
    Meg ... claims I should praise Nishant for obeying his V2 popes, missing the entire point that I'm criticizing him for NOT obeying the popes.

    Try to think through this without hurting yourself, would you?

    Call me anything you want to. I don't care. It doesn't change the fact that you are a liar. You and Johannes say that if we believe that Francis is the Pope, then we must obey him. But then you rebuke those who do obey him.

    As stubborn has ponted out, sedevacantism is rooted in anarchy. Anarchy isn't Catholic. Anarchists don't care about Truth, they care about their agenda.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
    « Reply #76 on: January 21, 2025, 05:47:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 21, 2025, 05:38:49 PM
    Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that indeed it's not possible to be THIS dumb without there being some bad will involved, which is why I've asked her repeatedly to explain why she has such deep animosity toward sedevacantists, because this degree of mindless/brainless venom and vitriol has to be personal.  That's why I asked her if she was molested by some SV priest.

    Such arrogance. Anyone who doesn't accept sedevacantism is dumb, right? You are so very, very, superior in both intellect and reasoning ability compared to us R&R folks.

    Sedevacantism is like Modernism; they are two extremes that seem opposed, but in reality they are the same thing.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Pope Sifting - Difficulties with Sedevacantism from Angelus 1995.
    « Reply #77 on: January 21, 2025, 05:51:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 21, 2025, 05:28:29 PM
    OK, so the point you're missing here is that I was actually rebuking Nishant Xaiver Fem as NOT actually obeying His Holiness Jorge.  Bergoglio gave strict orders that he was not to proselytize, and yet that's what Nishant is here doing.  He then claimed that these Antipopes encourage evangelization, but what Nishant is doing here is how those Apostates define proselytism, not evangelization.

    How dare Nishant come on here disrespectfully attacking our religion and attempting to convert us to the Conciliar religion?  That's the proselytism condemned by Jorge.  See, His Council Vatican II taugh that he should have "esteem" and "respect" for the separated brethren.  Instead he comes on here hurly nasty words, calling us names like "heretics" and "schismatics".  For shame, Xavier Fem Nishant, for disobeying your Papas, un-St. John Paul II the Great Apostate and un-St. Sodomite Montini ... and Jorge "Who am I to judge?" Bergoglio with his greatest hits like the "Recyclical" and the "Joy of Sex" Missive.

    I might respect him for being consistent, but the point is that he's disobeying his "Saint" Popes.  If you went onto a forum of Greek Orthodox, Xavier Fem, deriding them as heretics and schismatics, and telling them to convert, what would Your Holy Jorge have to say about that, eh?

    We are "offended" by your malicious derision of our "faith Tradition", Nishant, and we demand an apology, and your submission to the teachings of Jorge.
    2016 Pan-"Orthodox" Council (approved by the patriarchs/representatives of Constantinople, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Antioch as well as several national churches like those in Serbia, Romania, Cyprus, Greece, Poland, Albania, Czech Lands, Slovakia, and Georgia; considered binding for Eastern "Orthodoxy"), Relations of the "Orthodox" Church with the Rest of the Christian World
    "The Orthodox Church has a common awareness of the necessity for conducting inter-Christian theological dialogue. It therefore believes that this dialogue should always be accompanied by witness to the world through acts expressing mutual understanding and love, which express the “ineffable joy” of the Gospel (1 Pt 1:8), eschewing every act of proselytism, uniatism, or other provocative act of inter-confessional competition. In this spirit, the Orthodox Church deems it important for all Christians, inspired by common fundamental principles of the Gospel, to attempt to offer with eagerness and solidarity a response to the thorny problems of the contemporary world, based on the prototype of the new man in Christ"

    The Mission of the Orthodox Church in Today’s World
    "The conveyance of the Gospel’s message according to the last commandant of Christ, Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you (Matt 28:19) is the diachronic mission of the Church.  This mission must be carried out not aggressively or by different forms of proselytism, but in love, humility and respect towards the identity of each person and the cultural particularity of each people. All the Orthodox Church have an obligation to contribute to this missionary endeavor."
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