Here again, the utter contradiction.

1.) Man did not produce the Church and has no power to change it.

2.) We are not a regime based on arbitrary rule.

3.) We cannot do as we want.

Yet, look at the radical changes after VCII.

And this was interesting..

The point is not that we are saying we don't want to, but that we can't.

So we DO want to ordain women? But darnit, Our Lord didn't do it, so, shucks, I guess we can't...

Once you've wrecked the Mass, relatavized the importance of being Catholic, refused to condemn error and heretics, made the Pope a Bishop among equals, etc. can one really then draw a hard line at women priests that will last?

Changing the Mass, receiving in the hand, girl altar boys, Pope praying alongside apostates and heretics, rock music at Papal Masses were all once unthinkable.


Pope says ordaining women is not the church's choice to make

By Rita Fitch
Catholic News Service
11/30/10
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1004890.htm

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- In his latest book, Pope Benedict XVI reaffirmed that the church has "no authority" to ordain women as priests and rejected the idea that the rule was formed only because the church originated in a patriarchal society.

The pope said that man did not produce the form of the church, and does not have the power to change it. Christ gave the form of the priesthood when he chose his male Apostles, he said in the book-interview, "Light of the World: The Pope, the Church and the Signs of the Times."

"The church has 'no authority' to ordain women. The point is not that we are saying we don't want to, but that we can't," he said. This requires obedience by Catholics today, he added.

"This obedience may be arduous in today's situation, but it is important precisely for the church to show that we are not a regime based on arbitrary rule. We cannot do what we want," the pope said.

In the book, the pope responded to the argument that ordination was restricted to men only because priestesses would have been unthinkable 2,000 years ago.

"That is nonsense, since the world was full of priestesses at the time," the pope answered. "All religions had their priestesses, and the astonishing thing was actually that they were absent from the community of Jesus Christ."

The pope said there can be no question of discrimination in the church because women perform so many meaningful functions.

"Women have so eminent a significance that in many respects they shape the image of the church more than men do," he said, noting famous religious figures such as Blessed Teresa of Calcutta.

If women were ordained who here would become a sede?

Would you say that the Church never officially promulgated women's ordination, that the Pope just allowed bishops to start doing it?

Once you've wrecked the Mass, relatavized the importance of being Catholic, refused to condemn error and heretics, made the Pope a Bishop among equals, etc. can one really then draw a hard line at women priests that will last?

Likely, the "policy" of the Vatican not to ordain women will last through Benedict's time in office, though that is not an absolute:  Remember John Paul II once absolutely forbid girl altar boys and Paul VI forbid the expansion of Communion in the hand.  Both of these were approved by the very men who forbid them.

But the Vatican has not the fortitude to resist the feminists too long.  To appease them a little while longer while not actually ordaining women, I expect the Vatican to announce that they will make a couple of women cardinals since the requirement that cardinals be ordained priests was only added to Canon Law at some point.  At one time, a few of the cardinals were laymen, at least for a time.

When the announcement comes, remember that you heard it here first!  

The upside for me is that if the announcement never comes, you'll forget I ever made this prediction! :wink:

Albert,

Correct. Plus the former argument seems to agree with the false assumption in principle (gee we'd like to ordain women) and then passes the buck to Our Lord (!), (but He didn't do it.. (for some arbitrary reason) so we can't either).