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Pope says ISIS like Jesus
« on: May 20, 2016, 11:54:18 PM »
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  • "I don't think there is a fear of Islam as such, but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is drawn partly from Islam.

    It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam.

    However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew's Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest." Pope Francis


    No, the Apostles did not convert people at the end of a sword.

    This Pope....God have mercy on us all!


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    Pope says ISIS like Jesus
    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 12:03:45 AM »
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  • What Pope?
    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jews have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jew adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."


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    Pope says ISIS like Jesus
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2016, 12:33:33 AM »
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  • Here is a real SHOCKER. Written differently from the dailycaller.com:

    Pope Francis: Spreading The Gospel Is No Different Than Waging Jihad”

    dailycaller.com

    “In an interview published Tuesday with France’s La Croix, Pope Francis argued that Jesus’ call to spread the Gospel differs little from the jihad waged by radical Islamic terrorists.

    The pope explained how ISIS’ ‘war of conquest’ has bred a non-justified fear of Islam among Western countries.

    ‘I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,’ he told La Croix. ‘It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam.’

    ‘However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.'”

    MY COMMENTS:

     In preaching the gospel. We do not cut off peoples heads because they
     rejected the gospel.
     They need to know the price of rejecting the gospel is eternal damnation,
     a sentence carried out by God at the end of their natural lives.

     I remember a religion class when I attended parochial school back in the
     days the nuns taught sound doctrine that a religious dedicated in
     preaching the gospel to Muslims may be lucky to get one convert in a
     lifetime of preaching.
     That was at a time that you only saw Muslims in National Geographic Magazines
     all in the middle east and parts of Asia.  
     This francis is nothing but a heretic and is to be treated as a heretic.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 04:34:51 AM »
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  • Maybe they could be compared to St Paul before his conversion.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 10:19:10 AM »
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    Maybe they could be compared to St Paul before his conversion.


    Poche: Even St Paul while a tax collector and a pagan was concerned in
    serving the Roman State before his conversion.
    Get you theology right please. Islam did not exist until the 6th century
    A.D.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 10:31:08 AM »
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  • This makes me completely sick to my stomach.


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    « Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 12:56:37 PM »
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  • If I remember correctly, St. Paul participated somehow, to some extent, in the stoning of proto-martyr St. Stephen.

    However, I find poche's comparison of ISIS (an army) to St. Paul (an individual chosen by God) to be completely odious and incorrect.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 07:17:15 PM »
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    Maybe they could be compared to St Paul before his conversion.


    Don't twist the Pope's words by putting a positive spin on them.  He sure is a pope for the globalists.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 09:49:55 PM »
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  • I wonder if the man "subsisting in" the Chair of Peter has a brain tumor... or willfully invited a demon to enter him.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 10:59:09 PM »
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    What Pope?



    The "non canonically elected destroyer"... one, St. Francis of Assisi warned about.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2016, 11:43:44 PM »
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    Maybe they could be compared to St Paul before his conversion.


    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2016, 11:57:07 PM »
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    Maybe they could be compared to St Paul before his conversion.




    That character looks like he subsists off of a diet bathed in butter.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 22, 2016, 01:01:18 AM »
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  • I have no doubt that Francis the Red is an instrument of chastisement. A white cassock does not a Pope make.
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X

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    « Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 09:47:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    Here is a real SHOCKER. Written differently from the dailycaller.com:

    Pope Francis: Spreading The Gospel Is No Different Than Waging Jihad”

    dailycaller.com

    “In an interview published Tuesday with France’s La Croix, Pope Francis argued that Jesus’ call to spread the Gospel differs little from the jihad waged by radical Islamic terrorists.

    The pope explained how ISIS’ ‘war of conquest’ has bred a non-justified fear of Islam among Western countries.

    ‘I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,’ he told La Croix. ‘It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam.’

    ‘However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.'”

    MY COMMENTS:

     In preaching the gospel, we do not cut off people's heads because they
     rejected the gospel.
     They need to know the price of rejecting the gospel is eternal damnation,
     a sentence carried out by God at the end of their natural lives.

     I remember a religion class when I attended parochial school back in the
     days the nuns taught sound doctrine that a religious dedicated in
     preaching the gospel to Muslims may be lucky to get one convert in a
     lifetime of preaching.
     That was at a time that you only saw Muslims in National Geographic Magazines
     all in the middle east and parts of Asia.  
     This [F]rancis is nothing but a heretic and is to be treated as a heretic.


    I expect that Isis does not appreciate the ramblings of Francis because they see them as insults (also, they won't respect a pope who is not acting as a pope should), and Francis is all the while making a problem for himself by invoking the ire of his enemy, which could well end up erupting on Francis in the future.

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    Pope says ISIS like Jesus
    « Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 11:38:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 (May 21, 2016, 11:19 am)
    Even St Paul while a tax collector and a pagan was concerned in serving the Roman State before his conversion.

    Doubly wrong!

    The tax-collector eventual saint was Matthew the Evangelist.

    Saul was not a pagan; he was a Jew, born into the tribe of Benjamin, and received a privileged formal education in the Pharisaic Jewish faith, attending the school conducted in Jerusalem by the famed doctor of the Law (named) Gamaliel (Acts 5:34 &seq., 22:3).  And his father saw to it that he learned the skill of a tent-maker (teaching one's son a mundane-but-marketable skill was reportedly a Jewish custom of that place & time).  He also bore the Latin name Paul, as a Roman citizen born in the Cilician metropolis Tarsus.  At some time in adulthood, he began operating as what we might nowadays call a "bounty hunter" or an "enforcer" (oy vey! ).  The people that Saul sought or pursued were Jews who, from the Jewish perspective, were punishable as apostates or heretics, but whom Catholics honor as early converts to the faith identified by Greek words meaning "The Way", later known as "Christianity".

    On the day that Saul had his encounter with the blinding light of Jesus, he was carrying letters of authorization or introduction from the chief priests of Second Temple, to synagogues in Damascus, so he could expand his operations beyond those that'd made him notorious to Christians in Jerusalem (had Jerusalem gotten a wee bit "too hot" for his operations?).  But he had a biiig problem: He'd been struck blind, so he had to be led by hand to Damascus.  After Saul arrived, the Lord sent him the disciple Ananias, who cured Saul's blindness and then baptized him.  The eventual St. Paul began preaching Christianity, audaciously visiting synagogues there to do so.  Meanwhile, Jews began plotting to kill Paul (Acts presents no specific reason, but a few are readily imagined).  He escaped 1 plot against him in Damascus, and fled to Jerusalem.  But because of the fearsome reputation he earned as Saul in Jerusalem, the Christian disciples initially refused to take the risk of meeting him, with 1 exception: The eventual St. Barnabas, a native of Cyprus (Acts 4:36), who brought Paul on visits to those original Apostles who'd remained there, and convinced various disciples of Paul's Christian conversion & bold preaching in Damascus (Acts 9).

    For more of his life, see the subject article in the Catholic Encyclopedia: <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11567b.htm>.

    The C.E. article contains a terse in-line reference, but no full citation, that seems to be this book: Thomas Lewin: Life of St. Paul, vol. 1 (London: 1874).

     

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