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Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
« on: November 22, 2010, 12:12:36 PM »
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  • http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AL2J320101122

    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
     By Philip Pullella

    VATICAN CITY | Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:13am EST

    VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict says in a new book that he would not hesitate to become the first pontiff to resign willingly in more than 700 years if he felt himself no longer able, "physically, psychologically and spiritually," to lead the church.

    With startling candor, the 83-year-old Benedict floats the possibility of something Catholic Church officials do not like to talk about because it could open a doctrinal can of worms.

    The book, called "Light of the World: The Pope, the Church, and the Sign of the Times," has so far made headlines for the pope's cautious opening to the use of condoms to stop AIDS.

    But the book, an interview with German Catholic journalist Peter Seewald, also contains many personal reflections on Benedict's health, his daily routine and his future.

    "Yes, if a pope clearly realizes that he is no longer physically, psychologically and spiritually capable of handling the duties of his office, then he has a right and, under some circuмstances, also an obligation, to resign," he says.

    The last pope to resign willingly was Celestine V in 1294 after reigning for only five months. Gregory XII reluctantly abdicated in 1415 to end a dispute with a rival claimant to the Holy See.

    Earlier this year, when the Vatican was swept up by a new wave of sɛҳuąƖ abuse scandals, there were calls for Benedict to step down, but he says in the book that he would not "run away" in a time of crisis.

    "One can resign at a peaceful moment or when one simply cannot go on," he says.

    PHYSICAL DEMANDS

    Benedict seems to be in relatively good health but confesses in the book that he feels his forces diminishing.

    "Of course, I am sometimes concerned and I wonder whether I can make it even from a purely physical point of view," he says of the demand on his strength during trips.

    "The Holy Father is aware of his work and his complete dedication for the good of the Church," said newly appointed Cardinal Raul Eduardo Vela Chiriboga of Ecuador. "If something serious happens to his health it is logical that he would consider, with all the responsibility he has, what to do."

    There is a provision in canon (church) law for the resignation of a pope but it has never been used. It says a pope can resign but he has do it of his own free choice and it does not have to be accepted by anyone.

    But modern medicine's ability to extend life raises the possibility that a pope with Alzheimer's disease or one who suffers a stroke, for example, might not be able to decide.

    Previous popes have considered resigning but the news only emerged after their deaths, whereas Benedict seems to be laying the groundwork for such a possibility so that it does not come as total surprise.

    The late Pope John Paul, whose health deteriorated over the last years of his life, considered stepping down but then famously told a doctor that "there is no place in the church for an emeritus pope."

    Indeed, what would an "ex-pope" do?

    Church historians say a former pope would almost certainly have to disappear from the public scene, perhaps by going into seclusion in a monastery, never to be heard from again, so as not to cast a shadow over his predecessor.

    They say that if a pope resigns instead of ruling for life there is a real danger that the church could slip into a schism. Some who are not in agreement with the rulings of the new pope could decide to recognize his predecessor as church leader.

    Reuters has obtained an advance copy of the English version of the book, which the Vatican is presenting on Tuesday.

    (Additional reporting by Antonio Denti; Editing by Mark Trevelyan)

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    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
    « Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 08:08:47 PM »
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  • You mean he's not already "incapacitated" in the real sense by not being a Catholic?

    Oops.... :scratchchin:
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    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
    « Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 08:09:42 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh1:

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    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
    « Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 09:29:30 AM »
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  • I think the condom article is sufficient to say he may now be mentally incapacitated  :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh2: :cussing: :pray:
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    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
    « Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 11:30:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
    I think the condom article is sufficient to say he may now be mentally incapacitated  :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh2: :cussing: :pray:


    Why would one need to make excuses and say that he may now be mentally incapacitated?

    The real problem is that he is spiritually and theologically incapacitated.


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    Pope says in book he would resign if incapacitated
    « Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 05:35:55 AM »
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  • He is not mentally incapacitated. He is one of the most brilliant evil minds ever. Look at the result of this. You honestly think that husbands and wives looking for that chink to slip through to use birth control are not going to say, Well if they can surely he means we can. After all we are "good"  people. He gave his stamp of approval to deviant lifestyles by NOT saying the truth, Stop it is a sin. He has had the WORLD talking about sɛҳuąƖ matters of the most perverse nature. All the while Satan dances a jig and holds open his net to catch the haul Ratzinger is bringing in. Ratziner in this book is making his final atttempt to "Raze the Bastions of the Church". Look at the other quotes coming out. He is fully intending to place doubt in the minds of everyone. Everyone save those very few who are holding on to the True Faith.