Author Topic: Pope Pius XII (Read 6860 times)

AJNC · « **Reply #20 on:** June 05, 2018, 10:11:19 AM »

Quote from: xavierpope on June 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM

Anyone else wondering why this great pope is not a saint?

I remember reading a story that padre pio was celebrating mass one day and saw him in heaven - how beautiful

Please join me in a novena for him to be recognised by the church as a saint

O Venerable Pope Pius XII, who had on earth great courage to preach the word of God, vigor to repel the enemies of the Church, and zeal for the Holy Name, pray for us poor sinners. May we, O Pius, have a double portion of thy righteous qualities in defense of our holy Church. May we never abandon our duty to defend the faith, with fortitude, wherever we are and in whatever state God hath put us. Venerable Pius, may we, like thee, show the radiant glory of our Holy Lord in everything we do and say. And this, through the graciousness of the Divine Majesty, to Whom we humbly ask thee to pray for our benefit and protection.
Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Please take a look at this Hutton Gibson article where he answers a post in Traditio and then goes on to make comments of his own concerning Pius XII:
http://www.huttongibson.com/index-detail.php?Novus-Ordo-from-Pius-XII-69

forlorn · « **Reply #21 on:** June 05, 2018, 03:23:05 PM »

Quote from: Banezian on June 04, 2018, 06:18:03 PM

The question is whether the person in question is a saint to begin with. After Vatican 2, the standard for canonization was lowered to almost nothing. That makes modern canonizations very questionable

Again, if the Pope is valid then the canonisation is. Otherwise people could pick and choose their Popes. That is nonsense. If the Vatican 2 Popes are indeed valid Popes, then you must accept John Paul II, John XXIII and perhaps soon Paul VI as Saints.

songbird · « **Reply #22 on:** June 05, 2018, 04:59:51 PM »

Pope Pius the XII was also known as the Fatima Pope. Given 2 chances to consecrate Russia. Sister Lucia was told by Our Lady, "The Pope did not do the consecration, only in half measure.

cassini · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2018, 03:35:56 PM »

What is obvious to me is that the Catholic Church has left many of us UTTERLY CONFUSED as to what is Catholic anymore. Personally I have no time for Pius XII, the BIG BANG pope who would not rule out Adam as an evolved monkey, or any of the Vatican II popes. If they are saints, good for them, but I thought Catholics were supposed to look upon saints as examples of Catholic living and thinking. I have nothing but contempt for them as I lived through their time as popes and saw the Catholic Church lose all credibility in the world and saw millions of souls leave the Church for many reasons.

'BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM' said the Lord.

One fruit is this thread wherein we Catholics are supposed to accept as saints men we have no respect for. They could well be in heaven, whereas millions of souls in their care are not. Catholicism today is nothing but CONFUSION, not knowing what we are to believe, accept or reject.

Incredulous · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2018, 04:56:28 PM »

Quote from: Banezian on June 04, 2018, 01:38:10 PM

Why is Leo XIII not a saint?

In part, due to the Pope's selection of this ʝʊdɛօ-masonic papal secretary of state.

Cardinal Mariano Rampolla Del Tindaro

You might want to read-up on it :farmer:

CathInfo.com

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