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Offline JPaul

Re: Pope Pius XII
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2018, 03:42:06 PM »
Quote from: Cantarella on June 04, 2018, 01:47:42 PM
If Pope Pius XII were to be canonized today, I would doubt the authenticity of such canonization.

As a matter of fact, I have arrived to the conclusion that every single canonization coming from the saint-factory following Vatican II, is doubtful, at best, including the suspicious declarations of female "Doctors" of the Church.
I would agree with you. Everything they do is tainted by fulfilling modern agendas.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Pope Pius XII
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2018, 05:20:28 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 04, 2018, 01:39:51 PM
John Paul II, John XXIII and soon to be Paul VI are all saints of the counterfeit church of Vatican II
I've noticed on sedeplenist Traditional Catholic channels that the imminent canonisation of Paul VI is starting to cause doubts about Francis' Papacy. Canonisations are infallible after all, and it's hard to fathom how Paul VI could be a Saint.
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Offline Banezian

Re: Pope Pius XII
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2018, 05:59:34 PM »
Quote from: forlorn on June 04, 2018, 05:20:28 PM
I've noticed on sedeplenist Traditional Catholic channels that the imminent canonisation of Paul VI is starting to cause doubts about Francis' Papacy. Canonisations are infallible after all, and it's hard to fathom how Paul VI could be a Saint.
No they aren't ( especially when the standards have been wittled  down to almost nothin )
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Pope Pius XII
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2018, 06:07:50 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 04, 2018, 01:42:51 PM
I was just yanking your chain, which is why I mentioned the Ungreat.
I know,  never thought otherwise, but I wanted to make it clear for others who think JPII really is "The Great".
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Offline forlorn

Re: Pope Pius XII
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2018, 06:10:09 PM »
Quote from: Banezian on June 04, 2018, 05:59:34 PM
No they aren't ( especially when the standards have been wittled  down to almost nothin )
Yes they are. You can't pick and choose your Saints. If the Church makes someone a Saint then they're a Saint and we know for certain they're in Heaven.

The 1967 New Catholic Encyclopedia: "The dogma that saints are to be venerated and invoked as set forth in the profession of faith of Trent (cf. Denz. 1867) has as its correlative the power to canonize. ... "

St. Thomas Aquinas:, 'Honor we show the saints is a certain profession of faith by which we believe in their glory, and it is to be piously believed that even in this the judgment of the Church is not able to err' (Quodl. 9:8:16).
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