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« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2010, 07:05:08 PM »
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    TheD, you have made yourself an accomplice to slander.  I hold to no heretical positions.  Unpopular, yes.  Heretical, sinful?  No.


    At best you are in schism, but I see no reason to argue with you about it.


    One does not commit schism by withdrawing from communion with heresy.

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    « Reply #76 on: August 10, 2010, 07:23:58 PM »
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    TheD, you have made yourself an accomplice to slander.  I hold to no heretical positions.  Unpopular, yes.  Heretical, sinful?  No.


    At best you are in schism, but I see no reason to argue with you about it.


    One does not commit schism by withdrawing from communion with heresy.


     :roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1:


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    « Reply #77 on: August 10, 2010, 07:27:44 PM »
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    TheD, you have made yourself an accomplice to slander.  I hold to no heretical positions.  Unpopular, yes.  Heretical, sinful?  No.


    At best you are in schism, but I see no reason to argue with you about it.


    One does not commit schism by withdrawing from communion with heresy.


     :roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1:


    Since you set yourself up as an authority to be listened to, perhaps you could give us your background

    age
    married/ children?
    occupation
    catholic background
    theological training
    degrees in theology and cannon law, etc
    How you arrived at your position
    :rolleyes:

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    « Reply #78 on: August 10, 2010, 07:37:38 PM »
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  •  :popcorn:
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    Please pray for the repose of her soul.

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    « Reply #79 on: August 10, 2010, 08:21:21 PM »
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    roscoe,

    You forgot to tell them that you want to hold my hand...


    Disturbing...


    I think Gladius was referring to the Beatles' song.


    It is an old, running, poor joke...based upon something roscoe said a while back in the Ode thread.  He likes to pretend that he did not grasp that it was a joke -- one to which he opened up himself by a reference he made to the Beatles' song.

    No biggie...carry on...
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    « Reply #80 on: August 10, 2010, 08:24:54 PM »
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    As in days of old there is the implication that I am a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.


    No, just a bit of a dork...

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    Nor does he know anyone who does know me who could have even theoretically passed on a hearsay such as that.


    There never was any hear-say, roscoe, nor did I act as if there was, but I did hear -- from many, far and wide -- that 'vacante' means 'empty'...
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    « Reply #81 on: August 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM »
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    roscoe,

    You forgot to tell them that you want to hold my hand...


    Disturbing...


    I think Gladius was referring to the Beatles' song.


    U are wrong Cheryl-- he is implying that I am a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.


    The only acquiantence I have ever had with the person
    accusing me is through this Forum. If such a libel were even  true, he would have no way of knowing.

    It would seem that the Cardinal Rampolla scam is a very touchy subject indeed.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #82 on: August 11, 2010, 12:08:41 AM »
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  • Put down your doobie and go re-read the thread wherein the incident took place.

    It is clear to any with eyes to see and a mind to process the basics of human communication that I was joking with you, and in a rather normal manner.

    I am telling you I never 'implied' anything, I do not imply it now, and if you want to believe the contrary, that is because you are choosing (once again) to act like an idiot.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #83 on: August 11, 2010, 07:54:41 AM »
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  •   Ok boys take that stuff back to the Novus Ordo Seminary where it belongs.

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      Getting back on topic. That Gary Wills book is online.

      Pius XII in 1951 had a vision just like Fatima ?   No coments ?

      Another bombshell - Pius IX was John Paul II's hero ?  The Manchurian pope (with no travel restrictions under the Communist Block) admired the pope I consider did the most damage to the Church. You have to admit, his pontificate was quite an encore.

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    « Reply #84 on: August 11, 2010, 01:42:47 PM »
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    TheD, you have made yourself an accomplice to slander.  I hold to no heretical positions.  Unpopular, yes.  Heretical, sinful?  No.


    At best you are in schism, but I see no reason to argue with you about it.


    One does not commit schism by withdrawing from communion with heresy.


    Sorry, but you're still in heresy. A good way to get out of it would be to stop claiming that good Popes such as Pius X were anti-popes.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #85 on: August 11, 2010, 04:14:25 PM »
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  • The poster who thinks this is apparently a joke is deeply involved in the allegations that have been levelled against SGG. Not very funny if U ask me.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #86 on: August 11, 2010, 06:55:05 PM »
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    Sorry, but you're still in heresy. A good way to get out of it would be to stop claiming that good Popes such as Pius X were anti-popes.


    Please at least get your theological accusations straight.  You cannot accuse a person of heresy for saying that another person was in heresy.  The correct accusation is to say that I am in schism.  But this would only be true if Pius X himself was not in schism or heresy.  But in schism AND heresy he was.

    He (wittingly or unwittingly) publicly taught contrary to st. John 8:44 and the Council of Florence and Vatican Council definitions which make Jesus Christ's words therein a dogma.

    Quote from: Here is what Antipope Pius X
    Notre Charge Apostolique, Given by Antipope Pius X to the French Bishops, August 15, 1910

    The same applies to the notion of Fraternity which they found on the love of common interest or, beyond all philosophies and religions, on the mere notion of humanity, thus embracing with an equal love and tolerance all human beings and their miseries, whether these are intellectual, moral, or physical and temporal. But Catholic doctrine tells us that the primary duty of charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be, nor in the theoretical or practical indifference towards the errors and vices in which we see our brethren plunged, but in the zeal for their intellectual and moral improvement as well as for their material well-being. Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, and goal of the whole human family; and in Jesus Christ whose members we are, to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself.


    Not only does e make out the human race to be one family[/b], but that God is the Father of ALL, including (in context) those who have "false ideas", i.e. about God, religion, etc.

    No, we know that we are born sons of satan, thanks to Scripture and the Solemn Magisterium, and we know the only remedy for this is Baptism, according to the Council of Florence, and that only those with Faith are sons and daugters of God, according to the Vatican Council.

    Manifest heretics lose office in the Church.  Schismatics cannot hold office at all.  Pius X was schismatic for following Leo XIII, who is the first "pope" to teach this Masonic doctrine.

    This is verifiable, and you don't have to take my word for it or rely on occult knowledge to see it is true.  Go search the Councils and search for "adopted as children of God" in Florence and "sons and daughters" in the Vatican Council.

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    « Reply #87 on: August 11, 2010, 07:02:51 PM »
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    Not very funny if U ask me.


    No one asked :)
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    « Reply #88 on: August 11, 2010, 07:05:59 PM »
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  • I distinctly remember the discussion from about 6 months ago (?) where Gladius made an off the cuff remark to roscoe, using the Beatles song title.  I'm sure it was obvious to all reading the discussion that Gladius was not accusing roscoe of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.  At least it was to me.

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    « Reply #89 on: August 11, 2010, 08:11:45 PM »
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    TheD, you have made yourself an accomplice to slander.  I hold to no heretical positions.  Unpopular, yes.  Heretical, sinful?  No.


    At best you are in schism, but I see no reason to argue with you about it.


    One does not commit schism by withdrawing from communion with heresy.


     :roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1:


    Since you set yourself up as an authority to be listened to, perhaps you could give us your background

    age
    married/ children?
    occupation
    catholic background
    theological training
    degrees in theology and cannon law, etc
    How you arrived at your position
    :rolleyes:


    Im waiting for your answer to this post, Mr Landry.  You seem to have "pulled up a chair"  and are trying to get all cozy in this forum.   I believe that you are dangerous, and I want some answers from you on your background and position.
    There are some on here that have seminary training.  Do you have any theological training?  How old are you?  Please answer the questions I asked.