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Pope Pius IX - Mason
« Reply #210 on: September 25, 2010, 01:01:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Classiccom
    The priest has not started yet. No real info yet.

    Probably better off going back to SSPX and just confessing that I still think Pius IX was a Mason and the apparitions are deceptions. If they throw me out, I 'll take it from there. (probably sell T shirts that say "Go and CINOC no more". )

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    http://hubpages.com/hub/JettatoreXY

    Jettatore  - Pope Pius IX

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    Pope Pius IX was Prophesied 200 Years Before His Reign
     
    OUR LADY OF GOOD SUCCESS 1634 A.D.

    http://www.piustheninth.com/chapter7.htm

    (In the last days it was predicted that Satan would have good success with doctrines of demons , and even wear out the saints )


    Classicom, Pius IX was NOT warned against by Our Lady or anyone else. If you're going to spend all of your time here at Catholic Info bashing Popes, why not bash Popes such as Paul VI?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #211 on: September 25, 2010, 03:37:16 PM »
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  • Hi,
    What bothers you about that depction of Jesus?

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     All those images of a "baby Jesus"  next to a big mother just remind me of a diminished impotent Jesus. If you had a business card, would you picture yourself in diapers being held by your mother ? [/quote]


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    Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #212 on: September 25, 2010, 11:08:38 PM »
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    Charles,

    I was about to tear into you and accuse you of being Classiccom's alter-ego until I got to the end!
     :cheers:


    I figured if we gotta spin a tale, it might as well be a goodun !

     

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    Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #213 on: November 11, 2010, 04:21:56 AM »
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  •  More food for thought.

     Famous Epileptics that ruled Rome.

    Julius Caeser - Pius IX

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    http://www.helium.com/items/1330850-julius-caesar

    Biography: Julius Caesar

    "I had rather be first in a village than second in Rome." Thus spoke Julius Caesar, the man who would become first in Rome, as its consul for life and upon whom was bestowed the prestigious title, " Pater Patriae" Father of the Nation.

    "in 63 BC, after a vigorous campaign, he gained the important post of Pontifex Maximus chief of religion in the Roman state."

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      I find it amazing that no one has the guts to spell out all the antiChrist characteristics of Pius IX. Even the Protestants never talk much about it. Christ talked about that phenomenon about evil does not cast out evil.  


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    « Reply #214 on: November 11, 2010, 09:16:03 AM »
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  • Here is an interesting list of megalomaniacs.

    http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/epilepsy-famous.shtml

    By Disabled World - 2008-01-17

    Many famous and well known people have or did have epilepsy, here is a list of some of these people who suffered epilepsy in their lives.

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    Strange they forgot Pius IX.


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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #215 on: March 10, 2020, 02:59:20 AM »
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  • This information is interesting, but unfortunately you can't believe what a Mason says because they are all liars. As Dr. James Wardner said, Masons have taken an oath to lie. Nevertheless, if Pius IX was a Mason, he would have been an ineligible due to automatic excommunication. His council making the papacy infallible would be null and void. His successors would be antipopes and not popes, regardless of how good-looking and pious they were. That would make Vatican II null, the Pius X breviary void, all the sneaky Modernist reforms between 1846 and 1958 vacated. Excuse me, did you know that Pope Pius IX was a commissioned officer in the Freemason Napoleon Bonapartes Grand Armee? Participating in the Masonic conquest of Europe? Let me guess... You have your hands over your ears so you won't see. Funny,  everyone has at least one false belief he holds onto for dear life. The CMRI deny Feeneyism. The SSPX and Resistance deny sedevacantism. Roscoe denies both. RJMI denies that anyone outside his group can go to Heaven. And the Masonic high council are laughing at us all. They think they have won. I don't. I believe in the Catholic Church,  and I believe that somehow it will get back on its feet and smash all the lies we are following. 

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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #216 on: March 10, 2020, 07:07:27 PM »
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  • This information is interesting, but unfortunately you can't believe what a Mason says because they are all liars. As Dr. James Wardner said, Masons have taken an oath to lie. Nevertheless, if Pius IX was a Mason, he would have been an ineligible due to automatic excommunication. His council making the papacy infallible would be null and void. His successors would be antipopes and not popes, regardless of how good-looking and pious they were. That would make Vatican II null, the Pius X breviary void, all the sneaky Modernist reforms between 1846 and 1958 vacated. Excuse me, did you know that Pope Pius IX was a commissioned officer in the Freemason Napoleon Bonapartes Grand Armee? Participating in the Masonic conquest of Europe? Let me guess... You have your hands over your ears so you won't see. Funny,  everyone has at least one false belief he holds onto for dear life. The CMRI deny Feeneyism. The SSPX and Resistance deny sedevacantism. Roscoe denies both. RJMI denies that anyone outside his group can go to Heaven. And the Masonic high council are laughing at us all. They think they have won. I don't. I believe in the Catholic Church,  and I believe that somehow it will get back on its feet and smash all the lies we are following.

    Yes the Catholic Church shall rise again.

    Thank God that papal elections are "Acts of administration and are not a sacrament."

    Popes are administrators of the doctrines and dogmas of the Church through the discipline they impose on the Church. If they do anything else they are not to be listened to and ignored.

    Pius IX is a strange case of an epileptic who was given a dispensation to become a priest by Pope Pius VII in 1819. Very strange indeed.

    Shall we start giving hermaphrodites dispensations also and see how that works out?

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    Yet he was also excitable, oversensitive, and something of a bully. Sometimes this was expressed with a strange humor. To some Protestant clergy that visited him, he gave them this benediction: "May you be blessed by Him in whose honor you shall be burnt" More headlines went around the world.

    When bishops displeased him, he ordered them to kiss his feet, or a worse humiliation would fall on them. He sustained the death sentences of two anarchists. It is well-known by those who have read papal biographies that Pius IX was given to rages and was alternately kind and cruel to subordinates.


    One biographer, Martina, describes a "siege complex." Anyone who did not think as Pius IX thought was considered an enemy of the church and a personal enemy to be dealt with. He saw them as "unbelievers . . (operating) a war machine against the church. "


     …...

    Like a good politician, prior to the council, Pio Nono checked on the position of every archbishop and bishop. He used pressure, flattery, and deception to achieve his objective. When the Archbishop of Bologna complained that church tradition in Europe argued against infallibility. Pius roared, "I am tradition!" and immediately reassigned the archbishop to a monastery. Not wanting to spend the rest of his life as a monk washing dishes, the archbishop quickly relented.


    Even Cardinal John Henry Newman, the famous British Anglican priest who had converted to Catholicism in 1845, remarked, "It is not good for a pope to live 20 years. He becomes a god and has no one to contradict him."
      (O so true just look at JPII)



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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #217 on: March 10, 2020, 07:52:46 PM »
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  • Yes the Catholic Church shall rise again.

    Thank God that papal elections are "Acts of administration and are not a sacrament."

    Popes are administrators of the doctrines and dogmas of the Church through the discipline they impose on the Church. If they do anything else they are not to be listened to and ignored.

    Pius IX is a strange case of an epileptic who was given a dispensation to become a priest by Pope Pius VII in 1819. Very strange indeed.

    Shall we start giving hermaphrodites dispensations also and see how that works out?
    You are one sick individual! Venerable Pius IX was one of the saintliest popes that the Church has ever produced. I’ll bet that the only knowledge you have of him is from Wikipedia. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    « Reply #218 on: March 10, 2020, 07:57:24 PM »
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  • Yes the Catholic Church shall rise again.

    Thank God that papal elections are "Acts of administration and are not a sacrament."

    Popes are administrators of the doctrines and dogmas of the Church through the discipline they impose on the Church. If they do anything else they are not to be listened to and ignored.

    Pius IX is a strange case of an epileptic who was given a dispensation to become a priest by Pope Pius VII in 1819. Very strange indeed.

    Shall we start giving hermaphrodites dispensations also and see how that works out?
    This is a prime example of the fruits of the R&R position.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #219 on: March 10, 2020, 08:11:17 PM »
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  • Yet he was also excitable, oversensitive, and something of a bully. Sometimes this was expressed with a strange humor. To some Protestant clergy that visited him, he gave them this benediction: "May you be blessed by Him in whose honor you shall be burnt" More headlines went around the world.

    When bishops displeased him, he ordered them to kiss his feet, or a worse humiliation would fall on them. He sustained the death sentences of two anarchists. It is well-known by those who have read papal biographies that Pius IX was given to rages and was alternately kind and cruel to subordinates.


    One biographer, Martina, describes a "siege complex." Anyone who did not think as Pius IX thought was considered an enemy of the church and a personal enemy to be dealt with. He saw them as "unbelievers . . (operating) a war machine against the church. "


    Hmmm... some of this sounds very familiar.  Qui legit, intelligat.

    (And I say this as a "KAG2020" supporter, albeit primarily for the good of the unborn.  There is nothing perfect in this universe except God Himself.)

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    « Reply #220 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:17 PM »
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  • Yet he was also excitable, oversensitive, and something of a bully. Sometimes this was expressed with a strange humor. To some Protestant clergy that visited him, he gave them this benediction: "May you be blessed by Him in whose honor you shall be burnt" More headlines went around the world.

    When bishops displeased him, he ordered them to kiss his feet, or a worse humiliation would fall on them. He sustained the death sentences of two anarchists. It is well-known by those who have read papal biographies that Pius IX was given to rages and was alternately kind and cruel to subordinates.


    One biographer, Martina, describes a "siege complex." Anyone who did not think as Pius IX thought was considered an enemy of the church and a personal enemy to be dealt with. He saw them as "unbelievers . . (operating) a war machine against the church. "


    Hmmm... some of this sounds very familiar.  Qui legit, intelligat.

    (And I say this as a "KAG2020" supporter, albeit primarily for the good of the unborn.  There is nothing perfect in this universe except God Himself.)
    Sorry, the man was an extremely saintly pope and was violently attacked by the enemy's of the Church. It must be fun for the R&R type to attack a true pope’s dignity and thus lower the status of the papacy to justify their insubordination to the heretics whom they consider real popes. Instead of taking the word of a modernist biography from 1974, try this contemporary one by Shea: https://archive.org/details/TheLifeOfPopePiusIX/page/n11/mode/2up
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #221 on: March 10, 2020, 08:40:56 PM »
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  • This information is interesting, but unfortunately you can't believe what a Mason says because they are all liars. As Dr. James Wardner said, Masons have taken an oath to lie. Nevertheless, if Pius IX was a Mason, he would have been an ineligible due to automatic excommunication. His council making the papacy infallible would be null and void. His successors would be antipopes and not popes, regardless of how good-looking and pious they were. That would make Vatican II null, the Pius X breviary void, all the sneaky Modernist reforms between 1846 and 1958 vacated. Excuse me, did you know that Pope Pius IX was a commissioned officer in the Freemason Napoleon Bonapartes Grand Armee? Participating in the Masonic conquest of Europe? Let me guess... You have your hands over your ears so you won't see. Funny,  everyone has at least one false belief he holds onto for dear life. The CMRI deny Feeneyism. The SSPX and Resistance deny sedevacantism. Roscoe denies both. RJMI denies that anyone outside his group can go to Heaven. And the Masonic high council are laughing at us all. They think they have won. I don't. I believe in the Catholic Church,  and I believe that somehow it will get back on its feet and smash all the lies we are following.
    Why don’t you read a real biography on this great pope, instead of spouting stupidity. https://archive.org/details/TheLifeOfPopePiusIX/page/n11/mode/2up
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    « Reply #222 on: March 10, 2020, 11:30:59 PM »
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    To some Protestant clergy that visited him, he gave them this benediction: "May you be blessed by Him in whose honor you shall be burnt"

    What is there to object to?


    Pope Pius XI - 1928
    Mortalium Animos, On Religious Unity

    https://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius11/p11morta.htm



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    9. These pan-Christians who turn their minds to uniting the churches seem, indeed, to pursue the noblest of ideas in promoting charity among all Christians: nevertheless how does it happen that this charity tends to injure faith? Everyone knows that John himself, the Apostle of love, who seems to reveal in his Gospel the secrets of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and who never ceased to impress on the memories of his followers the new commandment “Love one another,” altogether forbade any intercourse with those who professed a mutilated and corrupt version of Christ’s teaching: “If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him: God speed you.”[18] For which reason, since charity is based on a complete and sincere faith, the disciples of Christ must be united principally by the bond of one faith. Who then can conceive a Christian Federation, the members of which retain each his own opinions and private judgment, even in matters which concern the object of faith, even though they be repugnant to the opinions of the rest? And in what manner, We ask, can men who follow contrary opinions, belong to one and the same Federation of the faithful?


    St. Alexander of Alexandria
    Epistles on Arianism and the Deposition of Arius


    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0622.htm



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    6. Since, therefore, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ has thus Himself exhorted us, and by His apostle has signified such things to us; we, who have heard their impiety with our own ears, have consistently anathematized such men, as I have already said, and have declared them to be aliens from the Catholic Church and faith, and we have made known the thing, beloved and most honoured fellow-ministers, to your piety, that you should not receive any of them, should they venture rashly to come unto you, and that you should not trust Eusebius or any one else who writes concerning them. For it becomes us as Christians to turn with aversion from all who speak or think against Christ, as the adversaries of God and the destroyers of souls, and "not even to wish them Godspeed, lest at any time we become partakers of their evil deeds," as the blessed John enjoins.





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    He sustained the death sentences of two anarchists.


    Again, what is there to object to?

    I don't know the names of those two men, but if they were akin to the likes of Leon Czolgosz or Gaetano Bresci, then they received due justice.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Re: Pope Pius IX - Mason
    « Reply #223 on: March 10, 2020, 11:37:42 PM »
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  • Sorry, the man was an extremely saintly pope and was violently attacked by the enemy's of the Church. It must be fun for the R&R type to attack a true pope’s dignity and thus lower the status of the papacy to justify their insubordination to the heretics whom they consider real popes. Instead of taking the word of a modernist biography from 1974, try this contemporary one by Shea: https://archive.org/details/TheLifeOfPopePiusIX/page/n11/mode/2up
    OK, let me clarify.  I had no intention whatsoever of attacking Pius IX.  I was merely quoting what someone else said, and made the observation --- apparently too oblique --- that these personal traits are also attributed by some to Donald Trump.  With the mess our country is in, especially with regard to abortion, I really don't care about the president's deportment or etiquette, as long as he gets the job done, as he is largely doing. Americans, though, being the dainty and sensitive types that they are (many of them, anyway), are suckers for the gentle demeanor and avuncular delivery of "Uncle Joe" Biden.  This may not end well.  Remember what a nice, gentlemanly, soft-spoken man that Jimmy Carter was.  Kind man, good man, but not the type of man who would deal harshly with our enemies (both foreign and domestic).

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    « Reply #224 on: March 10, 2020, 11:38:46 PM »
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  • https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-pius-ix-mason/msg690777/#msg690777

    Wenceslas, you've quoted pieces of an article from what appears to be a Baptist website.

    Why are you reading such material from non-Catholic authors?
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.