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« on: March 09, 2012, 01:31:28 PM »
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  • hehehe...wow! Now Pope Michael I is on the ban wagon "against" the CMRI and Communicatio in Sacris.

    Here is a video to this new video he published on youtube


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    « Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 03:23:21 PM »
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  • Is this romantheology?


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    « Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 07:47:34 PM »
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    Is this romantheology?


    Alas - no, it is excruciatingly sad.

    That is all.
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    « Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 07:52:34 PM »
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  • Romantheology? No!

    I am not a Sede or adhere to Pope Michael I.

    I seen this video, it is outrageously funny as is the Sedes.


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    « Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 07:57:53 PM »
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    Is this romantheology?


    Alas - no, it is excruciatingly sad.

    That is all.


    His anti-sedevacantist posting on Communicatio in Sacris, and posting style remind me of the old poster romantheology. Ergo, I asked him straight out.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 08:19:29 PM »
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  • Jim there is more to life than be scrupulous and paranoid...

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    « Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 08:40:40 PM »
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  • The comedy, the horrible spelling, the mockery of sedevacantism...

    Yep, those are all give-aways. This guy is romantheology.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 09:32:03 PM »
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  • Wanna debate? Debate this crazy!

    Who is the last Pope? Gregory XVI?

    You Sedes are all crazies!

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    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 01:30:55 PM »
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  • The "Sedes" are all "Crazy" and yet Benedict and JPII  hold false Ecumenist "gatherings" in places like Assisi with Buddists placing false images of the Buddah on the Altar while the pseudo Pope looks on in approval. Better to be thought of as crazy than to acknowledge the obvious - That neither is a True Pope , nor worse yet be like those who think a True Pope can err in a matter of Faith which is on public display time after time
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    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 01:40:27 PM »
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  • Hey Malleus,  

    You posted at "Catholic" Answers when I was there, didn't you? Seems like I remember you from there.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 10:35:27 AM »
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  • Hey

    SpiritusSanctus ,  Yes I used to go there a time or two until they gave me the boot - but then - censorship is the greatest form of flattery lol


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    « Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 02:28:53 PM »
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    hehehe...wow! Now Pope Michael I is on the ban wagon "against" the CMRI and Communicatio in Sacris.

    Here is a video to this new video he published on youtube



    I attend CMRI

    Regarding this particular video - there are several glaring weaknesses and discrepancies and 1/2 Truths.

    First - Father Cordova a CMRI Priest told me specifically that I could attend SSPX masses and that they are Valid Masses.

    Second - I happen to know that John Lane - creator of Bellarmine Forums and who holds to the Sedevacantist position likewise has attended SSPX Masses.

    There is a long standing feud with certain individuals we call "Home Aloners" because of this.  But where John and his family live - they have no Sedevacantist chapels nearby so what are they to do?  Go without the Sacraments or with infrequent sacraments?

    Its a decision that is difficult to make. CMRI Has chosen the prudent path. Ultimately , GOD Will decide.   As Catholics - it is up to us to obey the Commandments of GOD as best we can.

    So should we instead say to this pseudo Pope - that CMRI is the only surviving Catholic Group and that no other Catholics survive outside of the CMRI?  

    Apparently that is what he advocates. No , instead the CMRI Position is one of retreat - we have retreated into sedevacantism to preserve the Catholic way of life and the Sacraments and the Faith - relying on Supplied jurisdiction according to Divine Law rather than Ecclesiastic obedience to doubtful usurpers until this time of trial ends.

    Legalists always want to insist upon the CMRI justifying itself through canon law.

    Since the stance is one of preservation and always has been - the CMRI Has never insisted that it is the only catholic entity on earth - but rather - has sought to remain in a holding pattern fully acknowledging that other scattered groups exist with Valid Sacraments and that the Church has been attacked in the hierarchy and that in GODS time - the Papacy will emerge - for no one knows if a true POPE exists or its an interregnum. We do know that Cardinal Siri was validly elected Pope rather than John the XXIII.  And that since that time irregularities have existed which deviate from the past teachings of Holy Mother the Church.  

    The fact that this individual claims the Holy Papacy and thus insists upon Ecclesiastic obedience - merely exposes his position as just another legalist. If he can demonstrate lineage to Cardinal Siri - then perhaps we could take him serious - but he obviously is merely attemting to create further division in the Ranks of Good Catholics who merely want to Honor GOD with living a good Catholic life and abiding in the Sacraments.

    Our Lord Said - "He who is not with me is against me"  CMRI is not a legalistic entity like some of the cult like groups and will engage in open discussions with any serious Catholics or Catholic Groups who wish to inquire about our Theological Position and the reason for taking it.  We are not the only Catholic entity left in the world.  We are merely one that has taken a theological stance for preservation.

    Pax

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    « Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 02:36:44 PM »
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    hehehe...wow! Now Pope Michael I is on the ban wagon "against" the CMRI and Communicatio in Sacris.

    Here is a video to this new video he published on youtube



    I attend CMRI

    Regarding this particular video - there are several glaring weaknesses and discrepancies and 1/2 Truths.

    First - Father Cordova a CMRI Priest told me specifically that I could attend SSPX masses and that they are Valid Masses.

    Second - I happen to know that John Lane - creator of Bellarmine Forums and who holds to the Sedevacantist position likewise has attended SSPX Masses.

    There is a long standing feud with certain individuals we call "Home Aloners" because of this.  But where John and his family live - they have no Sedevacantist chapels nearby so what are they to do?  Go without the Sacraments or with infrequent sacraments?

    Its a decision that is difficult to make. CMRI Has chosen the prudent path. Ultimately , GOD Will decide.   As Catholics - it is up to us to obey the Commandments of GOD as best we can.

    So should we instead say to this pseudo Pope - that CMRI is the only surviving Catholic Group and that no other Catholics survive outside of the CMRI?  

    Apparently that is what he advocates. No , instead the CMRI Position is one of retreat - we have retreated into sedevacantism to preserve the Catholic way of life and the Sacraments and the Faith - relying on Supplied jurisdiction according to Divine Law rather than Ecclesiastic obedience to doubtful usurpers until this time of trial ends.

    Legalists always want to insist upon the CMRI justifying itself through canon law.

    Since the stance is one of preservation and always has been - the CMRI Has never insisted that it is the only catholic entity on earth - but rather - has sought to remain in a holding pattern fully acknowledging that other scattered groups exist with Valid Sacraments and that the Church has been attacked in the hierarchy and that in GODS time - the Papacy will emerge - for no one knows if a true POPE exists or its an interregnum. We do know that Cardinal Siri was validly elected Pope rather than John the XXIII.  And that since that time irregularities have existed which deviate from the past teachings of Holy Mother the Church.  

    The fact that this individual claims the Holy Papacy and thus insists upon Ecclesiastic obedience - merely exposes his position as just another legalist. If he can demonstrate lineage to Cardinal Siri - then perhaps we could take him serious - but he obviously is merely attemting to create further division in the Ranks of Good Catholics who merely want to Honor GOD with living a good Catholic life and abiding in the Sacraments.

    Our Lord Said - "He who is not with me is against me"  CMRI is not a legalistic entity like some of the cult like groups and will engage in open discussions with any serious Catholics or Catholic Groups who wish to inquire about our Theological Position and the reason for taking it.  We are not the only Catholic entity left in the world.  We are merely one that has taken a theological stance for preservation.

    Pax


    Good post!  CMRI is the most prudent group out there.  I believed the Siri theory.  There has been a work done that disproves alot of what has been written on the issue.  It may or may not become public, I hope it does.  It shows beyond a doubt where Guiffre does not have the facts strait, big important facts.  It shows the same thing happened in the election of 1938 with the smoke and that this is normal.  This was written by someone who believed the theory as well until he did research.  Guiffre is not a reliable source.

    But validly electing someone and then invalidly electing someone else would be a good plot by the masons to eliminate infallibility.  Something may have happened but we do not know for sure and we cannot rely on Guiffre.  Or so it would seem.

    I wish this guy would go public so you wouldn't have to take my word for it.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 04:40:16 PM »
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    hehehe...wow! Now Pope Michael I is on the ban wagon "against" the CMRI and Communicatio in Sacris.

    Here is a video to this new video he published on youtube



    I attend CMRI

    Regarding this particular video - there are several glaring weaknesses and discrepancies and 1/2 Truths.

    First - Father Cordova a CMRI Priest told me specifically that I could attend SSPX masses and that they are Valid Masses.

    Second - I happen to know that John Lane - creator of Bellarmine Forums and who holds to the Sedevacantist position likewise has attended SSPX Masses.

    There is a long standing feud with certain individuals we call "Home Aloners" because of this.  But where John and his family live - they have no Sedevacantist chapels nearby so what are they to do?  Go without the Sacraments or with infrequent sacraments?

    Its a decision that is difficult to make. CMRI Has chosen the prudent path. Ultimately , GOD Will decide.   As Catholics - it is up to us to obey the Commandments of GOD as best we can.

    So should we instead say to this pseudo Pope - that CMRI is the only surviving Catholic Group and that no other Catholics survive outside of the CMRI?  

    Apparently that is what he advocates. No , instead the CMRI Position is one of retreat - we have retreated into sedevacantism to preserve the Catholic way of life and the Sacraments and the Faith - relying on Supplied jurisdiction according to Divine Law rather than Ecclesiastic obedience to doubtful usurpers until this time of trial ends.

    Legalists always want to insist upon the CMRI justifying itself through canon law.

    Since the stance is one of preservation and always has been - the CMRI Has never insisted that it is the only catholic entity on earth - but rather - has sought to remain in a holding pattern fully acknowledging that other scattered groups exist with Valid Sacraments and that the Church has been attacked in the hierarchy and that in GODS time - the Papacy will emerge - for no one knows if a true POPE exists or its an interregnum. We do know that Cardinal Siri was validly elected Pope rather than John the XXIII.  And that since that time irregularities have existed which deviate from the past teachings of Holy Mother the Church.  

    The fact that this individual claims the Holy Papacy and thus insists upon Ecclesiastic obedience - merely exposes his position as just another legalist. If he can demonstrate lineage to Cardinal Siri - then perhaps we could take him serious - but he obviously is merely attemting to create further division in the Ranks of Good Catholics who merely want to Honor GOD with living a good Catholic life and abiding in the Sacraments.

    Our Lord Said - "He who is not with me is against me"  CMRI is not a legalistic entity like some of the cult like groups and will engage in open discussions with any serious Catholics or Catholic Groups who wish to inquire about our Theological Position and the reason for taking it.  We are not the only Catholic entity left in the world.  We are merely one that has taken a theological stance for preservation.

    Pax


    Good post!  CMRI is the most prudent group out there.  I believed the Siri theory.  There has been a work done that disproves alot of what has been written on the issue.  It may or may not become public, I hope it does.  It shows beyond a doubt where Guiffre does not have the facts strait, big important facts.  It shows the same thing happened in the election of 1938 with the smoke and that this is normal.  This was written by someone who believed the theory as well until he did research.  Guiffre is not a reliable source.

    But validly electing someone and then invalidly electing someone else would be a good plot by the masons to eliminate infallibility.  Something may have happened but we do not know for sure and we cannot rely on Guiffre.  Or so it would seem.

    I wish this guy would go public so you wouldn't have to take my word for it.


    I agree - there are so many mysteries related to the entire affair - but I think the  elephant in the room will always be the aftermath of both that Papal Election and the resulting council -  Vatican II - and no matter how many Catholics I have spoken with over the years who adhere to the various theories - one thing seems to be a common agreement amongst everyone - that Vatican II was a complete and utter failure. Even most conservative Novus Ordos agree on that.

    Pax

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    « Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 11:10:21 PM »
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  • Kudos to Bihop Pivarunas for promoting Traditional Ecumenism.  Although I do not hold the sedevacantist view, I have frequently assisted at their Masses if they are the best alternative when I travel.

     

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