Author Topic: Pope May Say Immemorial Mass of All Ages in Rome This Fall? (Read 5491 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2012, 12:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Augustine Baker

Inmho, you're either a Marxist or an unwitting meme along with everyone else like you.

You're accusing me of being a Marxist just for saying the NO clergy is loaded with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs? Really?

Perhaps you should get out your dictionary and look up the real definition of Marxism. Because you're using the term too losely.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2012, 12:34:37 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Augustine Baker
Inmho, you're either a Marxist or an unwitting meme along with everyone else like you.

You're accusing me of being a Marxist just for saying the NO clergy is loaded with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs? Really?

Perhaps you should get out your dictionary and look up the real definition of Marxism. Because you're using the term too losely.

If you're going to quote me to whine about being confronted for posting lies about the Catholic Church, you should at least get what I said right.

You're either a Marxist or an unwitting Marxist meme.

If you want to have a frank discussion about these issues, you should probably develop either some reading skills or some integrity.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2012, 01:43:06 PM »

Take a hike, Augustine Troublemaker. If you don't know that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are in the NO clergy, then you're naive. I'm not interested in having a discussion with a bullying liberal fraud.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2012, 02:06:15 PM »

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
For what is worth, this is my comment on the same topic on this thread:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19963#p2

I'm tired of hearing the conservative echoes.

Sounds like pure speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer:

A: She claims to know that the Pope is waiting to say the Mass because he's waiting for a new Missal to be published.

B: She claims to know that the revised 62' Missal will be the 65' Missal as she veers off in another, unrelated direction to attack Bishop Fellay.

What was that? "speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer"? :roll-laugh2: You must mean, informed conclusion from the facts.

By the way, you didn't answer if you are the same Augustinus from Rorate Caeli who kicked me out or perhaps Fr. Augustine Thompson, O.P. from the New Liturgical Movement. Keep the thombs down going, I know who you are.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #34 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:32:45 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Take a hike, Augustine Troublemaker. If you don't know that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are in the NO clergy, then you're naive. I'm not interested in having a discussion with a bullying liberal fraud.

You take a hike. I provided you with evidence. You just make inflammatory and untrue assertions based on your prejudices and ignorance.

You are a vile spreader of calumnies.

Incredulous · « **Reply #35 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:35:37 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

So it only took Benedict seven years to reportedly announce he's going to offer a TLM. Alright, and he still does nothing about the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and pedophiles in the priesthood, and still espouses ecuмenism and heresy.

Sadly.. our liberal Pope is anything you want him to be.
The Vatican is one big slushy love party.
Saving souls and Defending the Catholic Faith ? Why that's a "No No".

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:35:45 PM »

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
For what is worth, this is my comment on the same topic on this thread:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19963#p2

I'm tired of hearing the conservative echoes.

Sounds like pure speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer:

A: She claims to know that the Pope is waiting to say the Mass because he's waiting for a new Missal to be published.

B: She claims to know that the revised 62' Missal will be the 65' Missal as she veers off in another, unrelated direction to attack Bishop Fellay.

What was that? "speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer"? :roll-laugh2: You must mean, informed conclusion from the facts.

By the way, you didn't answer if you are the same Augustinus from Rorate Caeli who kicked me out or perhaps Fr. Augustine Thompson, O.P. from the New Liturgical Movement. Keep the thombs down going, I know who you are.

Ah, are you disputing that you made those assertions, or are you simply assuring us that we should just take your word for it?

I have no idea who Father Augustine is, but I'm sure he and I can't be the only ones who find fault with your hysterical speculations.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:37:25 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Take a hike, Augustine Troublemaker. If you don't know that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are in the NO clergy, then you're naive. I'm not interested in having a discussion with a bullying liberal fraud.

Did I say ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs weren't in the clergy?

I'm beginning to wonder whether your inability to read what I'm writing isn't actually a moral problem on your part.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:49:19 PM »

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
For what is worth, this is my comment on the same topic on this thread:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19963#p2

I'm tired of hearing the conservative echoes.

Sounds like pure speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer:

A: She claims to know that the Pope is waiting to say the Mass because he's waiting for a new Missal to be published.

B: She claims to know that the revised 62' Missal will be the 65' Missal as she veers off in another, unrelated direction to attack Bishop Fellay.

What was that? "speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer"? :roll-laugh2: You must mean, informed conclusion from the facts.

By the way, you didn't answer if you are the same Augustinus from Rorate Caeli who kicked me out or perhaps Fr. Augustine Thompson, O.P. from the New Liturgical Movement. Keep the thombs down going, I know who you are.

Ah, are you disputing that you made those assertions, or are you simply assuring us that we should just take your word for it?

I have no idea who Father Augustine is, but I'm sure he and I can't be the only ones who find fault with your hysterical speculations.

I will let others answer for me. OK, you are not Fr. Augustine. I'll accept that. Are you Augustinus?

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
For what is worth, this is my comment on the same topic on this thread:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19963#p2

I'm tired of hearing the conservative echoes.

Sounds like pure speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer:

A: She claims to know that the Pope is waiting to say the Mass because he's waiting for a new Missal to be published.

B: She claims to know that the revised 62' Missal will be the 65' Missal as she veers off in another, unrelated direction to attack Bishop Fellay.

What was that? "speculation based the assumption of actual knowledge on the part of the writer"? :roll-laugh2: You must mean, informed conclusion from the facts.

By the way, you didn't answer if you are the same Augustinus from Rorate Caeli who kicked me out or perhaps Fr. Augustine Thompson, O.P. from the New Liturgical Movement. Keep the thombs down going, I know who you are.

Ah, are you disputing that you made those assertions, or are you simply assuring us that we should just take your word for it?

I have no idea who Father Augustine is, but I'm sure he and I can't be the only ones who find fault with your hysterical speculations.

I will let others answer for me. OK, you are not Fr. Augustine. I'll accept that. Are you Augustinus?

No, is it relevant?

I take it you're ok with the childish and frankly stupid, libel on the part of Spiritus Sanctus though.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #40 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:57:32 PM »

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Take a hike, Augustine Troublemaker. If you don't know that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are in the NO clergy, then you're naive. I'm not interested in having a discussion with a bullying liberal fraud.

Did I say ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs weren't in the clergy?

I'm beginning to wonder whether your inability to read what I'm writing isn't actually a moral problem on your part.

Judgmental statement. Be careful! There is a Spanish saying: "The thief thinks everyone is a thief".

Nishant · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2012, 04:01:43 PM »

I've heard some persons say the Holy Father has never offered the traditional Mass before, but St.Peter's fraternity says differently. Only a few photographs, though.

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Easter 1990: Cardinal Ratzinger visits the motherhouse (in Wigratzbad, Bavaria) and offers Mass in the Traditional rite

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Link

Fr.Berg also said recently that they had trained over a 100 priests to say the Mass according to the 1962 Missal since Summorum Pontificuм.

It is precisely because lex orandi, lex credendi that it is realistic to say that with the return of the traditional Mass to prominence, there will be a return on the part of lukewarm priests and prelates to traditional doctrine and treaching.

I know there are many who wont be satisfied with this and who expect things to change overnight without their lifting a finger, but the fact is, while many theories are flying around, in the meanwhile, many souls remain estranged from orthodoxy in teaching and orthopraxy in worship. What of them?

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2012, 04:13:02 PM »

Quote from: Nishant2011

I've heard some persons say the Holy Father has never offered the traditional Mass before, but St.Peter's fraternity says differently. Only a few photographs, though.

Quote

...

Easter 1990: Cardinal Ratzinger visits the motherhouse (in Wigratzbad, Bavaria) and offers Mass in the Traditional rite

...

Link

Fr.Berg also said recently that they had trained over a 100 priests to say the Mass according to the 1962 Missal since Summorum Pontificuм.

It is precisely because lex orandi, lex credendi that it is realistic to say that with the return of the traditional Mass to prominence, there will be a return on the part of lukewarm priests and prelates to traditional doctrine and treaching.

I know there are many who wont be satisfied with this and who e xpect things to change overnight without their lifting a finger, but the fact is, while many theories are flying around, in the meanwhile, many souls remain estranged from orthodoxy in teaching and orthopraxy in worship. What of them?

He's never said it as Pope publicly

Of course, there are also people who don't believe he's said a valid Mass since ....1965 or whenever they calculate things in their strange sede-"reckoning".

Nishant · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2012, 04:14:25 PM »

Yeah, all right, I know that, Augstine Baker.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2012, 06:27:43 PM »

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Take a hike, Augustine Troublemaker. If you don't know that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are in the NO clergy, then you're naive. I'm not interested in having a discussion with a bullying liberal fraud.

Did I say ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs weren't in the clergy?

I'm beginning to wonder whether your inability to read what I'm writing isn't actually a moral problem on your part.

Judgmental statement. Be careful! There is a Spanish saying: "The thief thinks everyone is a thief".

Was that directed at me or the mendacious SpiritusSanctus?