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« on: May 23, 2014, 07:41:15 PM »
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  • Pope kisses the hand of, concelebrates mass with pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist priest

    Fr. Michele wrote, “ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ love is a gift from (God) no less than heterosɛҳuąƖ.” He also disparaged the idea of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ couples not having sex.

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    ROME, May 16, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Pope Francis raised eyebrows earlier this month by concelebrating Mass with and kissing the hand of a leading ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist priest campaigning for changes in the Church’s teaching on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. On May 6, Francis received the 93 year-old priest who has cofounded the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖist activist organization, Agedo Foggia, that is opposed to Catholic Church teaching.

    Fr. (Don) Michele de Paolis concelebrated Mass with Pope Francis at the Domus Santa Martha and then presented the pontiff with gifts of a wooden chalice and paten and a copy of his most recent book, “Dear Don Michele - questions to an inconvenient priest”.

    In a previous book, Don Michele wrote, “ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ love is a gift from (God) no less than heterosɛҳuąƖ.” He also disparaged the idea of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ couples not having sex.

    Francis closed the meeting by kissing the priest’s hand, a gesture that the far-left newspaper L'immediato called one “revealing the humility of a great man to another of the same stature.” De Paolis described the unusual papal gesture himself in a post to his Facebook page, saying that he asked Francis for an audience with the priest’s other organization, the Community of Emmaus: “Is that possible?”

    He said that the pope replied, “Anything is possible. Talk to Cardinal Maradiaga and he shall prepare everything.”  

    “And then (unbelievably) he kissed my hand! I hugged him and wept,” de Paolis concluded.

    The gesture has made something of a sensation in Italian media and ‘blogs since de Paolis is a well-known figure in Italy as a leading clerical apologist for the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖist ideology. He ostensibly met with Francis in his capacity as the founder of Emmaus Community in the southern Italian city of Foggia that assists the poor and those suffering from AIDS.

    But it is for his cofounding of Agedo Foggia, an “association of parents, relatives and friends of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs” (Associazione di genitori, parenti e amici di persone omosessuali) – that campaigns to promote the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖist and gender ideology in Italian society and the Church – that he is best known in this country.

    LifeSiteNews asked Vatican spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi for clarification as to the nature of the encounter but received no reply by press time.

    In addition to support from the City of Foggia, Agedo Foggia is funded by and working with the UNAR, the Italian government’s National Antidiscrimination and Racism Office (Ufficio nαzιonale Antidiscriminαzιoni Razziali) that has issued docuмents threatening journalists with prison if they fail to portray ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in a positive light.

    The website of Agedo Lecce carries an extensive quote from one of de Paolis’s books to help readers “get out of the quagmire of biblical precepts”. He wrote, “[W]e must overcome the letter of Scripture. It is the same St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:6 who says, ‘The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.’”

    “That this biblical letter,” de Paolis wrote, “killed and continues to kill, unfortunately, at times, not only morally but also physically, is a fact. The Bible ‘is’ not the word of God; the Bible ‘contains’ the word of God.”

    “Instead of wasting energy in endless controversy the Church aims to build a Christian spirituality of joyous acceptance of self, gratitude to God in the knowledge that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ love is a gift from Him no less than heterosɛҳuąƖ. A spirituality in which we dialogue and we compare to all, but obey God alone.”

    Church people, he said, “completely ignore the phenomenon of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, which science has now clarified unequivocally: the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ orientation is not chosen freely by the person. The boy or girl will discover that it is an approach deeply rooted in personality, which is an essential aspect of his identity: it is not a disease, it is not a perversion.”

    He lamented the “insensitivity” shown to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs by the Catholic Church, saying, “Some church people say, ‘It’s okay to be gαy, but they should not have sex, they can not love each other.’ This is the greatest hypocrisy. It’s like saying to a plant that grows, ‘You must not flourish, you must not bear fruit!’ Yes, it is against nature!’”

    “We must have patience with our Mother Church,” he continues. “Her attitude towards ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs will change.” He praised the “numerous initiatives” that have already been founded throughout Italy in which “groups of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Catholics have occasional contact with the diocese, usually marked by cordiality.”

    De Paolis is a prominent member of an Italian clerical subculture on the extreme, Marxist-informed left that sprang up after the Second Vatican Council. One Catholic writer, Giuseppe Nardi, wrote that de Paolis is a promoter of the “anarcho-Catholicism” of the extreme left that has been dominant in the Church in Italy, as well as in the South American Church, since the 1970s.

    De Paolis founded Agedo Foggia with the late Gabriele Scalfarotto, the father of the Italian Deputy Ivan Scalfarotto who sponsored the Italian parliament’s “anti-homophobia” bill that has been denounced by family activists as an attempt to shut down any moral criticism of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle. Recently pro-family and Catholic activists in Italy sought to secure Pope Francis’s aid in opposing the bill.


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    « Reply #1 on: May 23, 2014, 10:38:35 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 12:54:37 PM »
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  • Anyone else think that Francis is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

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    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 01:27:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
    Anyone else think that Francis is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?


    No, but it would almost be better if he were; at least he'd have a 'reason'...

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    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 01:40:15 PM »
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  • I think the evidence suggests that Francis is indeed a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Infact I think his association with the homo lobby is what got him elected in the conclave.

    The evidence:

    -He publicly kissed the hand of a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist
    -He held hands with another ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist while grinning obnoxiously
    -He appointed a notorious sodomite to the head of the Vatican bank. That's one of the most powerful positions within the Catholic Church.
    -He has expressed support for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ civil unions
    -He tolerated, if not endorsed, the presence of a massive ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network within his home diocese of Buenos Aires
    -He buried Benedict's dossier on the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby
    -He has denied the existence of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby
    -He said "who am I to judge" in reference to sodomites
    -He said that Catholics should stop being "obsessed" with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity

    Yup, this guy is a part of the "gαy lobby". As a matter of fact, he's the ringleader. He's employed classic fag lobby tactics: shower favor upon sodomites and their heterodox buddies, promoting them to influential positions within the Church, while permitting and even endorsing their organised persecution of the orthodox.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2014, 03:38:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
    Anyone else think that Francis is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?


    Yes.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2014, 03:41:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
    I think the evidence suggests that Francis is indeed a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Infact I think his association with the homo lobby is what got him elected in the conclave.

    The evidence:

    -He publicly kissed the hand of a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist
    -He held hands with another ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist while grinning obnoxiously
    -He appointed a notorious sodomite to the head of the Vatican bank. That's one of the most powerful positions within the Catholic Church.
    -He has expressed support for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ civil unions
    -He tolerated, if not endorsed, the presence of a massive ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network within his home diocese of Buenos Aires
    -He buried Benedict's dossier on the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby
    -He has denied the existence of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby
    -He said "who am I to judge" in reference to sodomites
    -He said that Catholics should stop being "obsessed" with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity

    Yup, this guy is a part of the "gαy lobby". As a matter of fact, he's the ringleader. He's employed classic fag lobby tactics: shower favor upon sodomites and their heterodox buddies, promoting them to influential positions within the Church, while permitting and even endorsing their organised persecution of the orthodox.


    Check out his involvement with the Unified Religion Initiative (URI). (if you have a strong stomach)


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    « Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 07:04:50 AM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
    Anyone else think that Francis is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?


    Yes.


    I am beginning to.  
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    « Reply #8 on: May 29, 2014, 06:39:24 PM »
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  • You guys have it all wrong! Brother JR from Catholic Answers Forum Explains... :laugh2:

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    You people need to chill out or you're going to get anxiety over things that are not important or are being misunderstood.

    First: every Catholic priest who is not suspended has the RIGHT TO CONCELEBRATE at any public mass, even if it's the pope celebrating it. This priest is not suspended. Therefore, he has a canonical right to concelebrate.

    Second: the fact that someone espouses a position that is contrary to the teachings of the Church does not take away his rights. The person may be in error, but his rights remain in place. This is true even in the civil sphere. You folks seem to want to strip this man of his right to concelebrate, because of his position on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. Canon law does not allow that. Priests have duties, but they also have rights. Violating their rights is not the way to bring them around to fidelity to duty.

    Third: He gave the pope a gift of his book. There is nothing wrong with that. It's a gift. For all we know, the pope may have never read the man's work and he may find it interesting to read. Popes read many books and other works, be they orthodox Catholic or at the other end of the spectrum. It's call academic scholarship. A pope would be a very poor academician if he only read the Fathers of the Church and never read the opposing arguments. This does not change anything. It just means that he's well informed.

    Fourth: the priest gave him a wooden chalice. Big deal. It does not mean that the pope is going to use it. Why is there a presumption that the pope is going to use it? Why can't it be seen for what it is, a gift of a piece of craftsmanship. The gift of a wooden chalice is not a sin. Stop making it what it's not. It does not help you or others. For what it's worth, the pope can change that rule or dispense himself from the rule, if he so wishes to do. We need to stop imposing laws on the pope when such laws are not applicable and we need not to assume, just because he accepted a gift. It would have been a violation of charity to turn the gift away.

    Fifth: the pope kissed the man's hand. The man is 93 years old. Whatever his position is on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, he is a senior citizen compared to the pope and a priest in good standing with the Church unless he is suspended. Do we assume that the man has never done any good for the Church during his 93-years on this earth, because of his position on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity? That's a very narrow way of seeing another human being, certainly not the way that Christ views us. Maybe we should be thankful that Christ does not judge us by our standards or we'd all be in hell.
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    « Reply #9 on: May 29, 2014, 06:43:25 PM »
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    You guys have it all wrong! Brother JR from Catholic Answers Forum Explains... :laugh2:

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    You people need to chill out or you're going to get anxiety over things that are not important or are being misunderstood.

    First: every Catholic priest who is not suspended has the RIGHT TO CONCELEBRATE at any public mass, even if it's the pope celebrating it. This priest is not suspended. Therefore, he has a canonical right to concelebrate.

    Second: the fact that someone espouses a position that is contrary to the teachings of the Church does not take away his rights. The person may be in error, but his rights remain in place. This is true even in the civil sphere. You folks seem to want to strip this man of his right to concelebrate, because of his position on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. Canon law does not allow that. Priests have duties, but they also have rights. Violating their rights is not the way to bring them around to fidelity to duty.

    Third: He gave the pope a gift of his book. There is nothing wrong with that. It's a gift. For all we know, the pope may have never read the man's work and he may find it interesting to read. Popes read many books and other works, be they orthodox Catholic or at the other end of the spectrum. It's call academic scholarship. A pope would be a very poor academician if he only read the Fathers of the Church and never read the opposing arguments. This does not change anything. It just means that he's well informed.

    Fourth: the priest gave him a wooden chalice. Big deal. It does not mean that the pope is going to use it. Why is there a presumption that the pope is going to use it? Why can't it be seen for what it is, a gift of a piece of craftsmanship. The gift of a wooden chalice is not a sin. Stop making it what it's not. It does not help you or others. For what it's worth, the pope can change that rule or dispense himself from the rule, if he so wishes to do. We need to stop imposing laws on the pope when such laws are not applicable and we need not to assume, just because he accepted a gift. It would have been a violation of charity to turn the gift away.

    Fifth: the pope kissed the man's hand. The man is 93 years old. Whatever his position is on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, he is a senior citizen compared to the pope and a priest in good standing with the Church unless he is suspended. Do we assume that the man has never done any good for the Church during his 93-years on this earth, because of his position on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity? That's a very narrow way of seeing another human being, certainly not the way that Christ views us. Maybe we should be thankful that Christ does not judge us by our standards or we'd all be in hell.
    __________________
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    Brother JR, FFV


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    « Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 07:13:14 PM »
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  • I would post what I think on that over on Vatican II Answers Forum, but I think I'd get banned.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 09:11:48 PM »
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  • With his trip to the Holy Land, the pictures make me wonder if he is a Jєω!  Kissing walls  and hiding the crucifix and etc., hm?  And people ask if he is Catholic? Hm, I don't think he is what he claims to be!