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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2022, 01:27:06 PM »
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  • Jesus met with sinners and said “Go, Sin no more. 

    Bergolio gives audience to sinners to promote sin.  Bergolio tells the people it’s ok to remain their sin.  It is why the Catholic Church is in crisis today. 





     Bergolio is not Jesus.  Bergolio worships false a earth goddess.  He is in a state of mortal sin by promoting men who are in a state of mortal sin. Mortal sin is grave sin.  








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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #16 on: June 27, 2022, 01:39:32 PM »
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  • These people are in a state of mortal grave sin because they are not repenting but are being used by the perverts in the Vatican to promote sin.  

    “The transgender explained to Fanpage what happened during the audience: "We met with a sister and a priest at the Vatican who are part of the National TRANSition Group of LGBT+ Christians – a project of La Tenda di Gionata. The Pope received each one of us and I was the first. To give him my book was a dream come true.”

    Pervert pop star gave performance on Easter Monday is mortal sin which was approved by Bergolio. 




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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #17 on: June 27, 2022, 01:49:02 PM »
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  • These people are in a state of mortal grave sin ...

    "mortal grave" is not really a term.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #18 on: June 27, 2022, 01:49:53 PM »
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  • Bergolio joyfully gave audience to Nancy Peℓσѕι and Biden.  The job of the Pope is to excommunicate public sinners instead of inviting them for a private audience. 

    Until they publicly apologize, confess and make reparations they are all in a state of sin. 
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #19 on: June 27, 2022, 01:53:52 PM »
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  • Per Baltimore Catechism:



    53. Q. How many kinds of actual sin are there?
    A. There are two kinds of actual sin-mortal and venial.



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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #20 on: June 27, 2022, 02:02:04 PM »
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  • "Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin"
    VCR, how do you know they are in a state of mortal sin?
    Because they're transgenders? Right off the bat, that's a sin against the 5th commandment because it does violence against their own bodies. Without even getting into the issues surrounding the abomination of significantly altering your body contrary to the nature God gave it.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #21 on: June 27, 2022, 02:05:25 PM »
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  • they are all in a state of sin.

    Stop obsessing about people's state of soul.

    Your thread title should been more along the lines of "Bergoglio condones grave sin".  Who cares if he "meets" with sinners?  You have a knee-jerk reaction of labeling people in mortal sin and obsessing about their state of soul (newsflash:  you are not their judge). 

    Real story here is that Beroglio is reported to have referred to Church teaching against transgenderism as "prejudices of the Church".  That's a far worse problem than the fact that some sick individuals think that they're women.  Sinners will always be with us; what's unprecedented is the man pretending to be pope condoning sin.

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #22 on: June 27, 2022, 02:07:20 PM »
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  • Because they're transgenders? Right off the bat, that's a sin against the 5th commandment because it does violence against their own bodies. Without even getting into the issues surrounding the abomination of significantly altering your body contrary to the nature God gave it.

    That makes is grave sin (external forum).  "Mortal" sin is a matter for the internal forum that will be judged by God.

    Nor does it matter that Bergoglio "gives an audience" to those in "mortal" sin.  What matters here is that he reportedly condoned it.  Also, the thread title is false by claiming that the "Pope" did these things.


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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #23 on: June 27, 2022, 02:16:41 PM »
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  • Timothy Douay-Rheims bible


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    Them that sin reprove before all: that the rest also may have fear. 
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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #24 on: June 27, 2022, 04:52:08 PM »
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  • Because they're transgenders? Right off the bat, that's a sin against the 5th commandment because it does violence against their own bodies. Without even getting into the issues surrounding the abomination of significantly altering your body contrary to the nature God gave it.
    Transgender refers to how people "identify".
    TransɛҳuąƖ refers to gender reassignment surgery.

    The first, while disgusting, is not a mortally sinful action unless the purpose of your dressing up is to cause someone else to commit mortal sin.

    The second could be morally sinful depending upon the disposition.

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #25 on: June 27, 2022, 05:25:05 PM »
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  • Transgender refers to how people "identify".
    TransɛҳuąƖ refers to gender reassignment surgery.

    The first, while disgusting, is not a mortally sinful action unless the purpose of your dressing up is to cause someone else to commit mortal sin.
    That's not how God sees it: "A woman shall not be clothed with man's apparel, neither shall a man use woman's apparel: for he that doeth these things is abominable before God." Deut. 22:5
    Sounds like a grave sin to me, at least according to how Lad defined "grave sin" (exterior forum)

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    The second could be mortally sinful depending upon the disposition.

    I don't see how it isn't mortally sinful. It's a grave act against human nature. We could question the disposition of one who commits the act of sodomy and find ourselves in the same position as the heretics in the Novus Ordo who dismiss it because God "made them that way". Ridiculous.

    Both transgenderism and transsɛҳuąƖism are both mortally sinful since they defile human nature.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #26 on: June 27, 2022, 05:37:03 PM »
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  • That's not how God sees it: "A woman shall not be clothed with man's apparel, neither shall a man use woman's apparel: for he that doeth these things is abominable before God." Deut. 22:5
    Sounds like a grave sin to me, at least according to how Lad defined "grave sin" (exterior forum)

    I don't see how it isn't mortally sinful. It's a grave act against human nature. We could question the disposition of one who commits the act of sodomy and find ourselves in the same position as the heretics in the Novus Ordo who dismiss it because God "made them that way". Ridiculous.

    Both transgenderism and transsɛҳuąƖism are both mortally sinful since they defile human nature.
    • Its subject matter must be grave. 
    • It must be committed with full knowledge (and awareness) of the sinful action and the gravity of the offense.
    • It must be committed with deliberate and complete consent.


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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #27 on: June 27, 2022, 05:40:44 PM »
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  • We could question the disposition of one who commits the act of sodomy and find ourselves in the same position as the heretics in the Novus Ordo who dismiss it because God "made them that way". Ridiculous.

    Their false allegation that God made them that way has nothing to do with the issues (as cited by epiphany) regarding the subjective guilt.  We have NO priests and even Bergoglio (in so many words) telling people that sodomy, transgenderism, etc. are OK.  It suffices to say grave sin without having to soul-read about their interior dispositions (leaving that to God alone).

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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #28 on: June 27, 2022, 05:51:21 PM »
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  • Stop obsessing about people's state of soul.

    Your thread title should been more along the lines of "Bergoglio condones grave sin".  Who cares if he "meets" with sinners?  You have a knee-jerk reaction of labeling people in mortal sin and obsessing about their state of soul (newsflash:  you are not their judge). 
    YES. This.

    VCR has shown a lot of growth in admitting her own faults and maliciousness towards other people... but this is one hurdle. Lad is spot-on here, and it's something we could all work on tbh.
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    Re: Pope gives audience to those in a state of mortal sin
    « Reply #29 on: June 27, 2022, 06:14:06 PM »
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  • Their false allegation that God made them that way has nothing to do with the issues (as cited by epiphany) regarding the subjective guilt.  We have NO priests and even Bergoglio (in so many words) telling people that sodomy, transgenderism, etc. are OK.  It suffices to say grave sin without having to soul-read about their interior dispositions (leaving that to God alone).
    How does saying that this act is objectively mortally sinful equate "soul-reading"? If you see someone openly rejecting their human nature, it doesn't take the charism of soul-reading to know they are in a state of mortal sin. Yes, we should give the benefit of the doubt to some people. But there's also things that are just objectively sinful, and this is one of them.

    Making these sorts of hair-splitting distinctions is one way how the world has gotten as bad as it is. "But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil." Matt. 5:37]
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]