Author Topic: Pope Francis said (Read 39495 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #160 on:** March 12, 2020, 01:54:36 PM »

Quote from: poche on March 09, 2020, 08:09:00 AM

Was that the same Pope Innocent who was destined to spend centuries in Purgatory for his sins. Could promoting this kind of vitriol be one of those sins? It is a good thing we had St. Lutgarde to pray for him or he could still be in Purgatory.

Here we have pooch trashing Innocent III-- one of my favorite Popes...

poche · « **Reply #161 on:** March 12, 2020, 11:33:58 PM »

Quote from: roscoe on March 12, 2020, 01:54:36 PM

Here we have pooch trashing Innocent III-- one of my favorite Popes...

Since I am mentioning St. Lutgarda, ought I to speak of the celebrated apparition of Pope Innocent. I acknowledge the perusal of this incident shocked me, and I would fain pass it over in silence.

I was reluctant to think that a Pope, and such a Pope, had been condemned to so long and terrible a Purgatory. We know that Innocent, who presided at the celebrated Council of Latern in 1215, was one of the greatest Pontiffs who ever filled the chair of St. Peter. His piety and zeal led him to accomplish great things for the Church of God and holy discipline.

How, then, admit that such a man was judged with so great severity at the Supreme Tribunal? How reconcile this revelation of St. Lutgarda with Divine Mercy? I wished, therefore, to treat it as an illusion, and sought for reasons in support of this idea. But I found, on the contrary, that the reality of this apparition is admitted by the gravest authors, and that it is not rejected by any single one. Moreover, the biographer, Thomas de Cantimpré, is very explicit, and at the same time very reserved. "Remark, reader," he writes at the end of his narrative, "that it was from the mouth of the pious Lutgarda herself that I heard of the faults revealed by the defunct, and which I omit here through respect for so great a Pope."

Aside from this, considering the event in itself, can we find any good reason, for calling it into question? Do we not know that God makes no exception of persons--that the Popes appear before His tribunal like the humblest of the faithful--that all the great and the lowly are equal before Him, and that each one
receives according to his works?

Do we not know that those who govern others have a great responsibility, and will have to render a severe account? "A most severe judgment shall be for them that bear rule." It is the Holy Ghost that declares it. (Wisdom vi.6)

Now, Innocent reigned for eighteen years, and during most turbulent times; and, add the Bollandists, is it not written that the judgments of God are inscrutbale, and often very different from the judgments of men? Judica tua abyssus multa. (Psalm xxxv.7)

The reality of this apparition cannot, then, be reasonably called into question. I see no reason for omitting it, since God does not reveal mysteries of this nature for any other purpose than that they should be made known for the edification of His Church.

Pope Innocent died July 16, 1216. The same day he appeared to St. Lutgarda in her monastery at Aywieres, in Brabant. Surprised to see a spectre enveloped in flames, she asked who he was and what he wanted.

"I am Pope Innocent," he replied. "Is it possible that you, our common Father, should be in such a state?" "It is but too true. I am expiating three faults which might have caused my eternal perdition. Thanks to the Blessed Virgin Mary, I have obtained pardon for them, but I have to make atonement. Alas! It is terrible; and it will last for centuries if you do not come to my assistance. In the name of Mary, who has obtained for me the favor of appealing to you, help me."

https://purgatorysouls.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-story-of-st-lutgarda-and-cistercian.html

ralgul · « **Reply #162 on:** March 13, 2020, 04:30:01 AM »

Jews are slayers of the Lord, murderers of the prophets, enemies and haters of God, adversaries of grace, enemies of their fathers' faith, advocates of the devil, a brood of vipers, slanderers, scoffers, men of darkened minds, the leaven of Pharisees, a congregation of demons, sinners, wicked men, haters of goodness!
~ St. Gregory of Nyssa

poche · « **Reply #163 on:** March 13, 2020, 04:48:46 AM »

Quote from: ralgul on March 13, 2020, 04:30:01 AM

Jews are slayers of the Lord, murderers of the prophets, enemies and haters of God, adversaries of grace, enemies of their fathers' faith, advocates of the devil, a brood of vipers, slanderers, scoffers, men of darkened minds, the leaven of Pharisees, a congregation of demons, sinners, wicked men, haters of goodness!
~ St. Gregory of Nyssa

How is this conducive of spreading the Gospel?

ralgul · « **Reply #164 on:** March 13, 2020, 07:15:48 AM »

Quote from: poche on March 13, 2020, 04:48:46 AM

How is this conducive of spreading the Gospel?

Antipope Francis doesn't believe in spreading the Gospel. He believes in spreading climate change awareness and open borders.

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Author Topic: Pope Francis said (Read 39495 times)

roscoe

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ralgul

St. Gregory of Nyssa said

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