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Offline poche

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Re: Pope Francis said
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2019, 12:08:09 AM »
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  • Of course your Luciferian "apologetics" in no way explain Jorge's clearly heretical blasphemy that Jesus sinned and made Himself the devil.


    Jesus Christ is True God and True Man, Second Person of the Holy Trinity, Sinless—in no way a devil.


    For the moment let us turn from discussing Jorge a major тαℓмυdic demon to discuss a lesser ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian demon.


    From their earliest years I teach my children that Satan will not jump out of the closet wearing a red costume with horns, a tail, carrying a pitchfork, shooting, "Boo!" "No," I warn them, "Satan will come looking as a friend, speaking softly and kindly, telling you what you want to hear, so that he may take you to Hell with him."


    Some here compliment your sweet demeanor and smarmy language, but you are like that soft-spoken devil carrying water for Satan, his ѕуηαgσgυє, and his "Pope." As best I can discern, you are one of Satan's minions.
    St Paul said that Jesus made Himself sin, in order to free us from our sins.

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #91 on: October 12, 2019, 12:21:46 AM »
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  • St Paul said that Jesus made Himself sin, in order to free us from our sins.


    Just subversive, not even a half-truth, but a 100% тαℓмυdic lie.



    From the Douay-Rheims, 2 Cor 5:21

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    [21] Him, who knew no sin, he hath made sin for us, that we might be made the justice of God in him.
    [21] "Sin for us": That is, to be a sin offering, a victim for sin.

    http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=54&ch=5&l=21-#x


    Where does St. Paul say that Jesus made Himself the devil?




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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #92 on: October 12, 2019, 12:38:53 AM »
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  • And Ted Bundy said: ‘Do you need a lift home? Hop into my car.’



    For almost a month I have reflected on your excellent one-liner and still find it as amusing as it is apt.



    It should become the standard response when Jorge's co-religionists quote Jorge saying something that sounds Catholic.

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #93 on: October 13, 2019, 03:03:03 AM »
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  • Here's a little follow-up to that great one-liner!


    The Spider And The Fly

    [size=+1]"Will you walk into my parlor?" said the spider to the fly;
     "'Tis the prettiest little parlor that ever you may spy.
     The way into my parlor is up a winding stair,
     And I have many curious things to show when you are there."
     "Oh no, no," said the little fly; "to ask me is in vain,
     For who goes up your winding stair can ne'er come down again."

     "I'm sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high.
     Well you rest upon my little bed?" said the spider to the fly.
     "There are pretty curtains drawn around; the sheets are fine and thin,
     And if you like to rest a while, I'll snugly tuck you in!"
     "Oh no, no," said the little fly, "for I've often heard it said,
     They never, never wake again who sleep upon your bed!"

     Said the cunning spider to the fly: "Dear friend, what can I do
     To prove the warm affection I've always felt for you?
     I have within my pantry good store of all that's nice;
     I'm sure you're very welcome - will you please to take a slice?"
     "Oh no, no," said the little fly; "kind sir, that cannot be:
     I've heard what's in your pantry, and I do not wish to see!"

     "Sweet creature!" said the spider, "you're witty and you're wise;
     How handsome are your gauzy wings; how brilliant are your eyes!
     I have a little looking-glass upon my parlor shelf;
     If you'd step in one moment, dear, you shall behold yourself."
     "I thank you, gentle sir," she said, "for what you're pleased to say,
     And, bidding you good morning now, I'll call another day."

     The spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
     For well he knew the silly fly would soon come back again:
     So he wove a subtle web in a little corner sly,
     And set his table ready to dine upon the fly;
     Then came out to his door again and merrily did sing:
     "Come hither, hither, pretty fly, with pearl and silver wing;
     Your robes are green and purple; there's a crest upon your head;
     Your eyes are like diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead!"

     Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little fly,
     Hearing his wily, flattering words, came slowly flitting by;
     With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer grew,
     Thinking only of her brilliant eyes and green and purple hue,
     Thinking only of her crested head. Poor, foolish thing! at last
     Up jumped the cunning spider, and fiercely held her fast;
     He dragged her up his winding stair, into the dismal den -
     Within his little parlor - but she ne'er came out again!

     And now, dear little children, who may this story read,
     To idle, silly flattering words I pray you ne'er give heed;
     Unto an evil counselor close heart and ear and eye,
     And take a lesson from this tale of the spider and the fly.  [/size]

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #94 on: October 13, 2019, 11:41:23 AM »
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  • Douay-Rheims Bible
    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema  Galatians 1:8.
    May God bless you and keep you


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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #95 on: October 13, 2019, 11:42:25 AM »
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  • As always we pray that the Pope will ditch his Masonic ways and embrace Jesus.  
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #96 on: October 13, 2019, 03:01:55 PM »
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  • Yes, it is possible to find examples of Pope Francis saying or doing good things.  This does not change the problem that he produces, on a regular and frequent basis, statements that seem to be teaching Catholicism incorrectly.

    Let's say for the sake of argument that every single one of these statements was simply misunderstood.  There is no sign of him learning from his mistakes and changing this behaviour to speak more clearly.  Even the best case scenario is that he just doesn't care about about theological precision and sees concern with correct teaching as some sort of "rigidity".  He remains a constant source of confusion about the faith.  How is that appropriate for someone who supposedly holds the highest teaching office in the Church?

    This is not a problem that goes away just because you found a few quotes of him saying things that sound OK.  This man is responsible for large numbers of people being confused about Catholic doctrine.
    I agree with you...he is part of the diabolical disorientation that our lady warned us of and just using common sense which many novus ordo people and others aren't using enough if is that satan mixes lies with truth...he comes as an angel of light...a little leaven...we must remember this when we see/hear concilliar popes...and especially francis

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #97 on: October 13, 2019, 07:16:09 PM »
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  • …the diabolical disorientation that our lady warned us of …
    You may find this interesting:
    Fatima Paradigm Shift Required: Watch John Vennari and Fr. Gruner Agree that Sister Lucy NEVER SPOKE ABOUT DIABOLICAL DISORIENTATION UNTIL the 60s and 70s. Since We Have Now Proven Beyond a Reasonable Doubt that the real Sister Lucy was Replaced by an Imposter after 1959, We Must Completely Reject the Diabolical Disorientation Paradigm for Understanding the Modernist Crisis.


    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.54)]October 05, 2019[/color]


    For a Forensic Analysis that the "Sister Lucy" who spoke of "diabolical disorientation" was NOT Sister Lucy, see 
    https://sisterlucyimposter.org/forensic-art/

    For our expert Handwriting Analysis of the Writings of "Sister Lucy" from 1967 onwards, the period in which she spoke of "diabolical disorientation" see, https://sisterlucyimposter.org/handwriting-analysis/

    For our analysis of the now proven fraud of "diabolical disorientation" see, https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=4015574537941757251#editor/target=post;postID=5693067462581469530;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=4;src=postname


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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #98 on: October 13, 2019, 09:54:24 PM »
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  • So, am I to understand you correctly that you disagree with Pope Francis when he says that Tradition is a guarantee for the future? You do not believe that fidelity to authentic Catholic tradition is a guarantee of the future?
    Poche, let me make it easy for you, the guy is an atheist. He doesn’t care about tradition, he doesn’t care about the Church, he doesn’t care about aborted babies, he doesn’t care about your soul, his only concern is to destroy the Church and tradition. Just because he makes a statement that may be truthful, it doesn’t mean that he wishes that truth to become a reality.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #99 on: October 13, 2019, 09:56:05 PM »
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  • For almost a month I have reflected on your excellent one-liner and still find it as amusing as it is apt.



    It should become the standard response when Jorge's co-religionists quote Jorge saying something that sounds Catholic.
    Thanks Mark!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #100 on: October 13, 2019, 10:13:46 PM »
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  •  Just because he makes a statement that may be truthful, it doesn’t mean that he wishes that truth to become a reality.

    Indeed!  Reminds me of someone else who spoke a half truth (i.e., a falsehood): "Why hath God commanded you, that you should not eat of every tree of paradise?"  I wonder how many of us would have jumped right away into correcting the devil's assertion -- just what it always wants us to do -- start yakking back and forth with it -- just like the fly did with the spider!


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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #101 on: October 14, 2019, 04:56:08 AM »
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  • Indeed!  Reminds me of someone else who spoke a half truth (i.e., a falsehood): "Why hath God commanded you, that you should not eat of every tree of paradise?"  I wonder how many of us would have jumped right away into correcting the devil's assertion -- just what it always wants us to do -- start yakking back and forth with it -- just like the fly did with the spider!
    We don't have to wish truth to become a reality. The reality is already there.

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #102 on: October 14, 2019, 09:45:11 AM »
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  • We don't have to wish truth to become a reality. The reality is already there.
    Where does St. Paul say Jesus became the DEVIL?

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #103 on: October 14, 2019, 09:58:17 AM »
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  • Francis the Hasid, ‘God is purifying the church with sin’
    https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2019/03/francis-hasid-god-is-purifying-church.html

    Francis was back at it again, teaching his priests at the annual Lenten meeting from the тαℓмυd, specifically the belief of “Yeridah Tzorech Aliyah”.  This time its a slight twist on what he taught to school children whom he told, “‘But Lord, throw a banana peel in front of them, so that they will take a good fall, and feel shame that they are sinners, and so encounter You,” in that Francis is applying this concept not to individuals but to his entire church.  How is his church to encounter God? Through the sin of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity!


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    Pope Francis' annual Lenten meeting with the priests March 7 began with a penitential prayer service and individual confessions at the Basilica of St. John Lateran, the cathedral of the Diocese of Rome.

    In a long, impromptu talk on priesthood and forgiveness, the pope acknowledged the clerical sɛҳuąƖ abuse crisis and the particular way it had impacted priests.

    "Sin disfigures us," he said, and it is "humiliating" when "we or one of our brother priests or bishops falls into the bottomless abyss of vice, corruption or, worse still, of a crime that destroys the lives of others," like the sɛҳuąƖ abuse of minors does.

    Pope Francis said he is convinced the abuse scandal is ultimately the work of the devil.

    "Still, do not be discouraged," he told the priests. "The Lord is purifying his bride (the church) and is converting us all to himself. He is putting us to the test so that we would understand that, without him, we are dust."

    God is working "to restore the beauty of his bride, surprised in flagrant adultery," the pope said.


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    Pope: God is purifying the church with 'unbearable' pain of abuse scandal, National Catholic Reporter, 7 March 2019
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    This is “worship in inversion”.  How is Christ purifying His spotless bride, the Church, through ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ relations?  These sins when “one returns to god” become merits!  A basic Catholic Catechism teaches that sodomy is one of the Sins which cry out to Heaven for vengeance.  If it isn’t obvious by now, Francis wants to attack Christians souls.  This can be seen in the last quoted statement of Francis, “to restore the beauty of his bride [the church], surprised in flagrant adultery.”  Since when did the Catholic Church, which is the true spotless Bride of Christ, become an adulterer?  As we wrote in the post, the Rebbe explains the Hasidic stratagem of “descent for sake of ascent”,

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    Francis shows his hand, when he inverts Catholic doctrine, as a modernist change agent who is simply following the dictates of ‘The Rebbe’ to be, “modern on the outside and Chabad on the inside.” One of the most blatant examples is Francis teaching the тαℓмυdic formula: Yeridah Tzorech Aliyah (“decent for sake of ascent”). This teaching simply means that one has to descend into sin, which paradoxically has a positive status in Hasidism, in order to ascend to new heights. This is done because the god of тαℓмυdic Judaism is one of opposites — a hermaphrodite god of good/evil. In the Hasidic lore, tzaddiks (saints or righteous people) wrestle not with evil but with goodness as they descend into sin in this process in order to ascend into righteousness. Yeridah Tzorech Aliyah is one of the foundational beliefs of Orthodox тαℓмυdic Judaism along with Tikun Olam. In the later belief the rabbis have the chutzpah to state that God made creation imperfect and the тαℓмυdic Jews are to correct his work.
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    Francis isn’t cleaning house and punishing the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ presiders underneath him else he would scarcely have any presiders left and defeat the whole purpose of his inverted Yiddish go-spiel which is thus,


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    “one must assist in drawing down the divinity to the nether region of the kelipah, to its greatest inversion, because of the assumption that the deeper the realm of existence opposing divinity, the greater will be the divine manifestation. Man is summoned to descend into the depths of the kelipah, or to sin and to commit transgressions, in order to draw divinity to there, because it wishes to be revealed with the greatest opposition, for the sake of actualizing its wholeness.”


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    CMJ note: "kelipah" are demonic shells from the "Sitra Achra" (side of uncleanness) in the Lurianic Kabbalistic system. "Kelipah" are completely evil, devoid of any goodness whatever. According to this system, "Jews" emanate from the "Sitra d'Kedusha" (side of holiness). (source for note)
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    Can it get any more perverted and disgusting than this?

    The worst thing is that souls sitting in the pews are listening to this garbage and believing it to be Word of God.[/font][/size][/color]

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    Re: Pope Francis said
    « Reply #104 on: October 14, 2019, 11:31:52 PM »
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  • BTW Poche -- just for the explicit record -- with a clear yes or no: Do you consider the тαℓмυd as a whole to be something good or something which is evil. actually extremely evil?  Also do you believe Jews and their тαℓмυdic religion to be Jesus Christ friendly or in direct opposition to Jesus Christ and His one true Church?  Please, no equivocation just a plain simple yes or no to 2 very simple straightforward questions.