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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: poche on February 03, 2019, 01:27:29 AM

Title: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 03, 2019, 01:27:29 AM
Pope Francis said that he likes to pray the stations of the Cross. How many of you pray the stations of the Cross?

  https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 19, 2019, 05:32:30 AM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone and urged the Vatican officials, “as in other areas of ecclesial life,” to avoid “ideological polarizations” and an attitude of “perpetual dialectics” against those with differing ideas about the liturgy.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/liturgy-is-not-styles-recipes-trends-pope-tells-divine-worship-congregation-75917

I guess that means no more clown masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Pax Vobis on February 19, 2019, 09:14:31 AM
Clown masses to be replaced by rainbow and celebrate-diversity masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on February 19, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
Pope Francis said that he likes to pray the stations of the Cross. How many of you pray the stations of the Cross?

  https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719)

Pray the stations of the Cross? Why?
For the good, their good works save them not faith. Go feed the poor and you are saved.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on February 19, 2019, 12:52:54 PM

If Francis even mixes a little tiny bit of tradition in, here comes poche, our favorite sycophant for the NO, touting his papacy.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 20, 2019, 12:05:34 AM
Pray the stations of the Cross? Why?
For the good, their good works save them not faith. Go feed the poor and you are saved.
I say do both, pray the stations of the Cross and feed the poor.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 27, 2019, 12:36:25 AM
"because in the end every feminism ends up being machismo with a skirt."


http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/22/190222c.html
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Jaynek on February 27, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
Yes, it is possible to find examples of Pope Francis saying or doing good things.  This does not change the problem that he produces, on a regular and frequent basis, statements that seem to be teaching Catholicism incorrectly.

Let's say for the sake of argument that every single one of these statements was simply misunderstood.  There is no sign of him learning from his mistakes and changing this behaviour to speak more clearly.  Even the best case scenario is that he just doesn't care about about theological precision and sees concern with correct teaching as some sort of "rigidity".  He remains a constant source of confusion about the faith.  How is that appropriate for someone who supposedly holds the highest teaching office in the Church?

This is not a problem that goes away just because you found a few quotes of him saying things that sound OK.  This man is responsible for large numbers of people being confused about Catholic doctrine.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: phagocytosis on February 27, 2019, 01:05:59 PM
Most of the Novus Ordo, and virtually the rest of the pagan world, don't read encyclicals and other formal decrees, many of which contain heresies, by Francis, but they do hear his casual speech, which contains more heresy and apostasy than anything he does in his official role. This is by design. He escapes any Church indictment that could be brought against him, if he were to try to teach a heresy from the Seat of Peter, while at the same time, he succeeds in leading souls to hell and cementing the Godless people in their unfaith by his casual speech that is intended to teach a new religion that's antithetical to Catholicism.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Vintagewife3 on February 27, 2019, 01:39:51 PM
Again, the little good he gets right doesn’t erase all the bad he’s done/said. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 27, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
Most of the Novus Ordo, and virtually the rest of the pagan world, don't read encyclicals and other formal decrees, many of which contain heresies, by Francis, but they do hear his casual speech, which contains more heresy and apostasy than anything he does in his official role. This is by design. He escapes any Church indictment that could be brought against him, if he were to try to teach a heresy from the Seat of Peter, while at the same time, he succeeds in leading souls to hell and cementing the Godless people in their unfaith by his casual speech that is intended to teach a new religion that's antithetical to Catholicism.
I thought that comparing feminism to machismo in a skirt was saying it like it is. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Nadir on February 27, 2019, 11:13:37 PM
"because in the end every feminism ends up being machismo with a skirt."


http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/22/190222c.html
His words are pure gobbledegook. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on February 28, 2019, 01:55:22 AM
Douay-Rheims Bible (https://biblehub.com/drb/galatians/1.htm)
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema  Galatians 1:8. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 28, 2019, 10:42:33 PM
His words are pure gobbledegook.
I would have thought that what he said about feminism made perfect sense.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 01, 2019, 10:54:33 PM
Pope Francis had this to say in relation to charitable work;

"Do not forget the strength and importance of prayer for you and for all those involved in charitable work: it needs to be nurtured with appropriate pauses for prayer and listening to the Word of God. The secret of the effectiveness of each of your projects is fidelity to Christ and your personal relationship with Him in prayer."

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/28/190228b.html
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: JezusDeKoning on March 01, 2019, 11:02:43 PM
Even the Devil can quote Scripture, Poche. Just because Bergoglio talks about the Stations of the Cross, it means nothing.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 02, 2019, 10:55:20 PM
Even the Devil can quote Scripture, Poche. Just because Bergoglio talks about the Stations of the Cross, it means nothing.
He also speaks against the do it yourself masses and he speaks in favor of the importance of prayer in relation to works of charity.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: AnonymousCatholic on March 02, 2019, 11:52:04 PM
The POPE!?! Praying the stations?!?!?! WHEW! I'm sure the world was holding their breath on this one. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Ladislaus on March 03, 2019, 06:06:51 PM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone ...

And he forcefully condemned the practice of placing beachballs on the altar.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Ladislaus on March 03, 2019, 06:08:22 PM
Yes, it is possible to find examples of Pope Francis saying or doing good things.

Indeed, not even Satan himself is pure evil ... otherwise he would not exist.  For every thing which exists, there's some good there.  OK, so Francis is at least 10-15% Catholic.  All is now good with the Church.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 04, 2019, 04:54:44 AM
The POPE!?! Praying the stations?!?!?! WHEW! I'm sure the world was holding their breath on this one.
Every Good Friday the Pope publicly prays the Stations of the Cross at the Coliseum. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Capt McQuigg on March 08, 2019, 05:45:56 PM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone and urged the Vatican officials, “as in other areas of ecclesial life,” to avoid “ideological polarizations” and an attitude of “perpetual dialectics” against those with differing ideas about the liturgy.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/liturgy-is-not-styles-recipes-trends-pope-tells-divine-worship-congregation-75917

I guess that means no more clown masses.
No, Poche.  I think Pope Francis means no more criticizing clown masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 31, 2019, 11:39:07 PM
Pope Francis called for the Sacrament of Confession to be elevated in the pastoral life of the Church during a Lenten penitential liturgy in St. Peter’s Basilica Friday.
“Confession is the passage from misery to mercy,” Pope Francis said in his homily for the Lenten reconciliation service March 29.
“Let us restore to this sacrament the place it deserves in life and pastoral ministry!” he said.
The pope said that receiving pardon for our sins through a priest is “always a new, distinctive and unique experience.”
“We pass from being alone with our miseries … to being raised up and encouraged by the Lord who grants us a new start,” he said.
Following the homily, Pope Francis led a silent examination of conscience. The pope then heard the confessions of several penitents in St. Peter’s Basilica.
Other priests were also available throughout the basilica to hear individual confessions.
Pope Francis recommended that people approaching the Sacrament of Reconciliation spend time looking at a crucifix after making their confession. It would be beautiful, he said, to remain with “eyes fixed on Jesus who has just set us free: no longer looking at our miseries, but rather at his mercy.”
“To look at the Crucified One and say with amazement: ‘That’s where my sins ended up. You took them upon yourself. You didn’t point your finger at me; instead, you opened your arms and forgave me once again,’” he said.
“For this is the heart of Confession: not the sins we declare, but the divine love we receive, of which we are ever in need,” Francis added.
The penitential service marked the beginning of the “24 Hours for the Lord” initiative held annually on the fourth Friday and Saturday of Lent.
The pope reflected, “How many times do we feel alone, that we have lost our way in life? How many times do we no longer know how to begin again, overwhelmed by the effort to accept ourselves? We need to start over, but we don’t know where to begin.”
“Only by being forgiven can we set out again with fresh confidence, after having experienced the joy of being loved by the Father to the full,” he said.
Earlier in the day, Pope Francis met with seminarians and young priests taking part in an internal Vatican forum on formation for the sacrament.
Many perceive the Sacrament of Confession -- and with it a sense of sin -- to be in crisis in the contemporary world, he said, and stressed that the formation of priests is necessary to overcome the crisis and to “offer an ever more qualified service capable of really manifesting the beauty of the Divine Mercy.”
“If we want to be free from evil, we have to make room for the Lord who forgives and heals,” Francis said.
“Evil is strong, it has a seductive power: it attracts and fascinates. Our own efforts are not enough to detach ourselves from it: we need a greater love. Without God, we cannot overcome evil,” he said. “Only his love raises us up from within, only his tender love poured out into our hearts makes us free.”
“This is the heart of Confession: not the sins we declare, but the divine love we receive, of which we are ever in need,” Pope Francis said.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/francis-let-us-restore-confession-to-the-place-it-deserves-in-catholic-life-25641
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on April 24, 2019, 12:36:24 AM
Pope Francis celebrated the feast of his patron St. George – Jorge in Spanish – by giving away rosaries to 6,000 young people from Milan, asking them to pray for him through Mary’s intercession.
The rosaries came from World Youth Day in Panama and were given to the Milanese youth during a Mass celebrated by Archbishop Mario Delpini of Milan in St. Peter’s Basilica Tuesday morning.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-gifts-6000-rosaries-asks-for-prayers-on-name-day-95790 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-gifts-6000-rosaries-asks-for-prayers-on-name-day-95790)

Will you pray the rosary for Pope Francis?
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on May 06, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
 Pope Francis Wednesday reminded those who think belief in the devil is antiquated or outdated that Satan really exists and that Jesus himself experienced his temptations and overcame them.
“So began the public life of Jesus, with the temptation that comes from Satan. Satan was present,” the pope said May 1.
“Many people say: ‘But why talk about the devil, which is an ancient thing? The devil does not exist.’ But look at what the Gospel teaches you,” Francis emphasized. “Jesus confronted the devil, he was tempted by Satan. But Jesus rejects every temptation and comes out victorious.”
He advised people to remember in their own moments of temptation that “Jesus has already fought this temptation for us.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/satan-is-real-pope-francis-says-64486 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/satan-is-real-pope-francis-says-64486)