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Title: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 03, 2019, 01:27:29 AM
Pope Francis said that he likes to pray the stations of the Cross. How many of you pray the stations of the Cross?

  https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 19, 2019, 05:32:30 AM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone and urged the Vatican officials, “as in other areas of ecclesial life,” to avoid “ideological polarizations” and an attitude of “perpetual dialectics” against those with differing ideas about the liturgy.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/liturgy-is-not-styles-recipes-trends-pope-tells-divine-worship-congregation-75917

I guess that means no more clown masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Pax Vobis on February 19, 2019, 09:14:31 AM
Clown masses to be replaced by rainbow and celebrate-diversity masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on February 19, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
Pope Francis said that he likes to pray the stations of the Cross. How many of you pray the stations of the Cross?

  https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-says-he-loves-to-pray-the-way-of-the-cross-54719)

Pray the stations of the Cross? Why?
For the good, their good works save them not faith. Go feed the poor and you are saved.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on February 19, 2019, 12:52:54 PM

If Francis even mixes a little tiny bit of tradition in, here comes poche, our favorite sycophant for the NO, touting his papacy.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 20, 2019, 12:05:34 AM
Pray the stations of the Cross? Why?
For the good, their good works save them not faith. Go feed the poor and you are saved.
I say do both, pray the stations of the Cross and feed the poor.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 27, 2019, 12:36:25 AM
"because in the end every feminism ends up being machismo with a skirt."


http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/22/190222c.html
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Jaynek on February 27, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
Yes, it is possible to find examples of Pope Francis saying or doing good things.  This does not change the problem that he produces, on a regular and frequent basis, statements that seem to be teaching Catholicism incorrectly.

Let's say for the sake of argument that every single one of these statements was simply misunderstood.  There is no sign of him learning from his mistakes and changing this behaviour to speak more clearly.  Even the best case scenario is that he just doesn't care about about theological precision and sees concern with correct teaching as some sort of "rigidity".  He remains a constant source of confusion about the faith.  How is that appropriate for someone who supposedly holds the highest teaching office in the Church?

This is not a problem that goes away just because you found a few quotes of him saying things that sound OK.  This man is responsible for large numbers of people being confused about Catholic doctrine.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: phagocytosis on February 27, 2019, 01:05:59 PM
Most of the Novus Ordo, and virtually the rest of the pagan world, don't read encyclicals and other formal decrees, many of which contain heresies, by Francis, but they do hear his casual speech, which contains more heresy and apostasy than anything he does in his official role. This is by design. He escapes any Church indictment that could be brought against him, if he were to try to teach a heresy from the Seat of Peter, while at the same time, he succeeds in leading souls to hell and cementing the Godless people in their unfaith by his casual speech that is intended to teach a new religion that's antithetical to Catholicism.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Vintagewife3 on February 27, 2019, 01:39:51 PM
Again, the little good he gets right doesn’t erase all the bad he’s done/said. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 27, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
Most of the Novus Ordo, and virtually the rest of the pagan world, don't read encyclicals and other formal decrees, many of which contain heresies, by Francis, but they do hear his casual speech, which contains more heresy and apostasy than anything he does in his official role. This is by design. He escapes any Church indictment that could be brought against him, if he were to try to teach a heresy from the Seat of Peter, while at the same time, he succeeds in leading souls to hell and cementing the Godless people in their unfaith by his casual speech that is intended to teach a new religion that's antithetical to Catholicism.
I thought that comparing feminism to machismo in a skirt was saying it like it is. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Nadir on February 27, 2019, 11:13:37 PM
"because in the end every feminism ends up being machismo with a skirt."


http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/22/190222c.html
His words are pure gobbledegook. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on February 28, 2019, 01:55:22 AM
Douay-Rheims Bible (https://biblehub.com/drb/galatians/1.htm)
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema  Galatians 1:8. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on February 28, 2019, 10:42:33 PM
His words are pure gobbledegook.
I would have thought that what he said about feminism made perfect sense.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 01, 2019, 10:54:33 PM
Pope Francis had this to say in relation to charitable work;

"Do not forget the strength and importance of prayer for you and for all those involved in charitable work: it needs to be nurtured with appropriate pauses for prayer and listening to the Word of God. The secret of the effectiveness of each of your projects is fidelity to Christ and your personal relationship with Him in prayer."

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/02/28/190228b.html
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: JezusDeKoning on March 01, 2019, 11:02:43 PM
Even the Devil can quote Scripture, Poche. Just because Bergoglio talks about the Stations of the Cross, it means nothing.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 02, 2019, 10:55:20 PM
Even the Devil can quote Scripture, Poche. Just because Bergoglio talks about the Stations of the Cross, it means nothing.
He also speaks against the do it yourself masses and he speaks in favor of the importance of prayer in relation to works of charity.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: AnonymousCatholic on March 02, 2019, 11:52:04 PM
The POPE!?! Praying the stations?!?!?! WHEW! I'm sure the world was holding their breath on this one. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Ladislaus on March 03, 2019, 06:06:51 PM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone ...

And he forcefully condemned the practice of placing beachballs on the altar.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Ladislaus on March 03, 2019, 06:08:22 PM
Yes, it is possible to find examples of Pope Francis saying or doing good things.

Indeed, not even Satan himself is pure evil ... otherwise he would not exist.  For every thing which exists, there's some good there.  OK, so Francis is at least 10-15% Catholic.  All is now good with the Church.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 04, 2019, 04:54:44 AM
The POPE!?! Praying the stations?!?!?! WHEW! I'm sure the world was holding their breath on this one.
Every Good Friday the Pope publicly prays the Stations of the Cross at the Coliseum. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Capt McQuigg on March 08, 2019, 05:45:56 PM
Francis also emphasized that the liturgy is not a “do-it-yourself” zone and urged the Vatican officials, “as in other areas of ecclesial life,” to avoid “ideological polarizations” and an attitude of “perpetual dialectics” against those with differing ideas about the liturgy.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/liturgy-is-not-styles-recipes-trends-pope-tells-divine-worship-congregation-75917

I guess that means no more clown masses.
No, Poche.  I think Pope Francis means no more criticizing clown masses.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on March 31, 2019, 11:39:07 PM
Pope Francis called for the Sacrament of Confession to be elevated in the pastoral life of the Church during a Lenten penitential liturgy in St. Peter’s Basilica Friday.
“Confession is the passage from misery to mercy,” Pope Francis said in his homily for the Lenten reconciliation service March 29.
“Let us restore to this sacrament the place it deserves in life and pastoral ministry!” he said.
The pope said that receiving pardon for our sins through a priest is “always a new, distinctive and unique experience.”
“We pass from being alone with our miseries … to being raised up and encouraged by the Lord who grants us a new start,” he said.
Following the homily, Pope Francis led a silent examination of conscience. The pope then heard the confessions of several penitents in St. Peter’s Basilica.
Other priests were also available throughout the basilica to hear individual confessions.
Pope Francis recommended that people approaching the Sacrament of Reconciliation spend time looking at a crucifix after making their confession. It would be beautiful, he said, to remain with “eyes fixed on Jesus who has just set us free: no longer looking at our miseries, but rather at his mercy.”
“To look at the Crucified One and say with amazement: ‘That’s where my sins ended up. You took them upon yourself. You didn’t point your finger at me; instead, you opened your arms and forgave me once again,’” he said.
“For this is the heart of Confession: not the sins we declare, but the divine love we receive, of which we are ever in need,” Francis added.
The penitential service marked the beginning of the “24 Hours for the Lord” initiative held annually on the fourth Friday and Saturday of Lent.
The pope reflected, “How many times do we feel alone, that we have lost our way in life? How many times do we no longer know how to begin again, overwhelmed by the effort to accept ourselves? We need to start over, but we don’t know where to begin.”
“Only by being forgiven can we set out again with fresh confidence, after having experienced the joy of being loved by the Father to the full,” he said.
Earlier in the day, Pope Francis met with seminarians and young priests taking part in an internal Vatican forum on formation for the sacrament.
Many perceive the Sacrament of Confession -- and with it a sense of sin -- to be in crisis in the contemporary world, he said, and stressed that the formation of priests is necessary to overcome the crisis and to “offer an ever more qualified service capable of really manifesting the beauty of the Divine Mercy.”
“If we want to be free from evil, we have to make room for the Lord who forgives and heals,” Francis said.
“Evil is strong, it has a seductive power: it attracts and fascinates. Our own efforts are not enough to detach ourselves from it: we need a greater love. Without God, we cannot overcome evil,” he said. “Only his love raises us up from within, only his tender love poured out into our hearts makes us free.”
“This is the heart of Confession: not the sins we declare, but the divine love we receive, of which we are ever in need,” Pope Francis said.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/francis-let-us-restore-confession-to-the-place-it-deserves-in-catholic-life-25641
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on April 24, 2019, 12:36:24 AM
Pope Francis celebrated the feast of his patron St. George – Jorge in Spanish – by giving away rosaries to 6,000 young people from Milan, asking them to pray for him through Mary’s intercession.
The rosaries came from World Youth Day in Panama and were given to the Milanese youth during a Mass celebrated by Archbishop Mario Delpini of Milan in St. Peter’s Basilica Tuesday morning.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-gifts-6000-rosaries-asks-for-prayers-on-name-day-95790 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-gifts-6000-rosaries-asks-for-prayers-on-name-day-95790)

Will you pray the rosary for Pope Francis?
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on May 06, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
 Pope Francis Wednesday reminded those who think belief in the devil is antiquated or outdated that Satan really exists and that Jesus himself experienced his temptations and overcame them.
“So began the public life of Jesus, with the temptation that comes from Satan. Satan was present,” the pope said May 1.
“Many people say: ‘But why talk about the devil, which is an ancient thing? The devil does not exist.’ But look at what the Gospel teaches you,” Francis emphasized. “Jesus confronted the devil, he was tempted by Satan. But Jesus rejects every temptation and comes out victorious.”
He advised people to remember in their own moments of temptation that “Jesus has already fought this temptation for us.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/satan-is-real-pope-francis-says-64486 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/satan-is-real-pope-francis-says-64486)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: cosmas on May 24, 2019, 10:45:15 PM
Poche, here is a laundry list on all the Great things your hero Pope Francis is doing for the church !


What You Need To Know About
the Man who Claims to be the Pope
(https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/francis-stern.png)Mr. Jorge Mario Bergoglio
“Pope Francis”
General Information / Miscellaneous
Bergoglio/Francis and Other Religions
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on May 24, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
And just the other day Pope Francis was talking about how the old Mosaic law was obsolete. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on May 25, 2019, 11:45:48 PM
'Abortion is never the answer' - Pope Francis

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-abortion-is-never-the-answer-91636 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-abortion-is-never-the-answer-91636)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Pax Vobis on May 26, 2019, 12:26:07 AM
Why do you even come to this site, Poche?  Plenty of pro-novus ordo, pro-Francis sites.  I don’t see how you posting here makes any sense. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Last Tradhican on May 26, 2019, 11:40:01 AM
And just the other day Pope Francis was talking about …..
In a country of blind men, the one eyed man is a king. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Last Tradhican on May 26, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
Every Good Friday the Pope publicly prays the Stations of the Cross at the Coliseum.
I remember watching once a documentary about the garbage dump people in the Philippines, they live off of the garbage at the dump, eating whatever they can find. They followed this 16 year old mother of an infant as she looked for her meal in the morning. She had that day a rotten grapefruit for her only meal.  

Poche is living in the Novus Ordo dump feeding himself from the few scraps of edible waste he can find, and then he comes here to boast of his "finds".
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 14, 2019, 12:45:21 AM
Pope Francis just promulgated a decree that rejects gender ideology.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 14, 2019, 01:15:54 AM
There is really nothing to dialogue in regards to any mortal sin.  

The Papal visit to USA , Ireland etc should have been used to dialogue which included the spreading of the gospel of Jesus.  Catholic morals and teachings should have been included in the dialogue.  

We pray Pope Frances ditches communism of liberal theology and seeks Jesus and the true faith. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on June 14, 2019, 04:57:48 AM
Pope Francis just promulgated a decree that rejects gender ideology.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html)
Poche, do you ever wonder why your pope doesn’t just come right out and condemn this stuff as plainly evil and that it is (and has always been) contrary to Catholic teaching? I’ll tell you why, because he’s for it. He’s pushing this satanic agenda at just the right pace for it to be absorbed by it’s willing and unwilling dupes. Two steps forward, one step back.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Meg on June 14, 2019, 08:52:16 AM
Pope Francis just promulgated a decree that rejects gender ideology.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html)

It gives a mild and tame defense of Church teaching. That's not what is needed in today's radically leftist society, where those who strive to uphold proper Church teaching are often persecuted for their efforts.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Alexandria on June 14, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Poche, do you ever wonder why your pope doesn’t just come right out and condemn this stuff as plainly evil and that it is (and has always been) contrary to Catholic teaching? I’ll tell you why, because he’s for it. He’s pushing this satanic agenda at just the right pace for it to be absorbed by it’s willing and unwilling dupes. Two steps forward, one step back.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 14, 2019, 10:44:14 PM
Poche, do you ever wonder why your pope doesn’t just come right out and condemn this stuff as plainly evil and that it is (and has always been) contrary to Catholic teaching? I’ll tell you why, because he’s for it. He’s pushing this satanic agenda at just the right pace for it to be absorbed by it’s willing and unwilling dupes. Two steps forward, one step back.
I thought he was condemning it.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 14, 2019, 10:53:10 PM
There is really nothing to dialogue in regards to any mortal sin.  

The Papal visit to USA , Ireland etc should have been used to dialogue which included the spreading of the gospel of Jesus.  Catholic morals and teachings should have been included in the dialogue.  

We pray Pope Frances ditches communism of liberal theology and seeks Jesus and the true faith.
Dialog with regard to mortal sin is about saying that it is wrong. Don't do it!!! Part of the dialog is to say why it is wrong.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Nadir on June 15, 2019, 02:39:55 AM
Dialog with regard to mortal sin is about saying that it is wrong. Don't do it!!! Part of the dialog is to say why it is wrong.
Poche, can you quote the bit wher he mentions "mortal sin".
The article you linked is a whole load of codswallop produced by the Congregation for Catholic Education. Why do you give so much importance to this gobbledegook? It's not good for the mind.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on June 15, 2019, 04:05:05 AM
I thought he was condemning it.
That nonsense didn’t condemn anything, if I’m mistaken, please point it out to me.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on June 15, 2019, 05:41:50 AM
Poche,

Read this:https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/from-catholic-to-neo-pagan-sex-education-expert-offers-searing-critique-of-new-vatican-doc-on-gender-theory (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/from-catholic-to-neo-pagan-sex-education-expert-offers-searing-critique-of-new-vatican-doc-on-gender-theory)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on June 19, 2019, 06:23:05 PM
Pope Francis just promulgated a decree that rejects gender ideology.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html)

As usual Francis shows everything he touches comes out heresy:

ROME, June 14, 2019 (LifeSiteNews (https://www.lifesitenews.com/catholic)) — A Catholic psychologist has denounced the latest Vatican document on gender theory as containing “not one sentence of sound advice for parents who try to educate their children towards the virtues necessary for a Christian life.”
In a searing critique, Dr. Gerard J.M. van den Aardweg, a Dutch psychologist and psychoanalyst specializing in the treatment of persons with homosexual tendencies, condemned the recent Vatican document on gender theory, saying “the aggressive neo-pagan sexual ideology of the world has no wisdom we might share. The task of the Church is not dialoguing but teaching and correcting, there is a relentless spiritual war going on in the field of sexuality, marriage, and the family.”

LifeSite: Dr. van den Aardweg, what are your general impressions of the Vatican’s new document on gender theory?

Dr. van den Aardweg: Basically, it is an ideological document. It is not specifically Catholic, in spite of some lip service. It essentially makes a plea for a kind of atheist-humanist/socialist sex education, presented as more or less Catholic. It gushes over the boons of a social model of sexual education monitored by “professional experts” on the basis of naively supposed ever-deepening insights into sexuality in the current human sciences. It represents the kind of illusionary and sentimental talk about education and “affectivity” characteristic of the immature and superficial humanistic psychology of the 1960s, but now proclaimed as ‘higher wisdom’ by a Vatican Congregation whose members run half a century behind the times. It is ‘dialogue’ and ‘listening’ and ‘openness’ all over again. But no listening to the divine teachings of the Catholic Church on sexuality, marriage and the family (for these seem in need of ‘restructuring’). Teaching and preaching them to a pagan world is not, it seems, the way forward. The great dream is an “alliance” with the neo-paganism of the sexual, marriage, and family ideology of the UN and the anti-Christian EU countries.

“Listening.” Well, listening attentively to the document’s vague and ambiguous formulations and suggestions in order to discern what it drives at, one can discern its lead motive: revolutionary change.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: King Wenceslas on June 20, 2019, 10:34:19 AM

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The relativization of the unpopular Biblical view of man-woman relationships and social “roles,” in apparent support of feminist (and gay?) indignation, also appears in the glib contention about “unjust discrimination,” which is “a sad fact of history” also “within the Church.” The Church would have violated the “equal dignity of men and women” in consequence of a “masculinist [sic] mentality veiled by religious motives.” If this is not a sneer at the Catholic teaching about man as the head and woman as the heart of the family, and the woman’s duty to obey her husband etc., what else is being suggested? Or, looked at from a different angle, who can believe the authors of this text are still capable of transmitting the unchangeable divine teachings of the Apostles, St. Augustine, and the Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI? Probably, these authors, blinded by the spirit of the times (Zeitgeist), do not even understand them anymore, nor do they seem to know and understand the correct anthropological and psychological insight of St. Edith Stein that “woman is by nature mother and the companion of the man.” For any Catholic who knows and understands this truth would have made it the cornerstone of a discourse on the equal value of man and woman. 


So poche pushes the narrative that everything is okay in the Vatican under Francis and it turns out the latest document pushes for joining of the current world Zeitgeist and the Church. The mass confusion has commenced and the darkness will only get deeper.

The Sheppard (Benedict) has been struck and the sheep are being scattered. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 20, 2019, 11:12:42 PM
Poche is saying that like Pope St Pius X dialogued with Herzl so must we all dialog with the pagan world in which we live. And just as Pope St Pius said an emphatic "no!" to Herzl when he suggested something that his holiness thought unreasonable, so must we also say an emphatic "no!" to gender ideology.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: MiserereMeiDeus on June 21, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
Pius X never dialogued with Herzl. Here's an account of their meeting: https://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/05/saint-pius-x-and-theodore-herzl-gesture.html (https://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/05/saint-pius-x-and-theodore-herzl-gesture.html) He spoke to Herzl, and what he said was "No."

Dialoguing is a process that facilitates the Hegelian dialectic, and is utterly nonCatholic. In a dialogue the Newchurch antipope says "Christ's people are wonderful" and the pagan person says "Buggery is wonderful.," and the final result is a mealy-mouthed mess that in essence says "Christ's people and buggery are wonderful." That's dialoguing, and it is NOT Catholic.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 24, 2019, 08:41:50 AM
Pius X never dialogued with Herzl. Here's an account of their meeting: https://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/05/saint-pius-x-and-theodore-herzl-gesture.html (https://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/05/saint-pius-x-and-theodore-herzl-gesture.html) He spoke to Herzl, and what he said was "No."

Dialoguing is a process that facilitates the Hegelian dialectic, and is utterly nonCatholic. In a dialogue the Newchurch antipope says "Christ's people are wonderful" and the pagan person says "Buggery is wonderful.," and the final result is a mealy-mouthed mess that in essence says "Christ's people and buggery are wonderful." That's dialoguing, and it is NOT Catholic.
And that is what we need. In the dialog we will say to the sinner, "We love you. We hate that sin that you do."
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: MiserereMeiDeus on June 24, 2019, 06:27:34 PM
When "Francis" says, of sodomy, "Who am I to judge?" and promotes and protects known perverts, only an insane person would imagine he would say he hates the sin.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 27, 2019, 06:11:33 AM
Much of the problem at the border is because of Pope Francis:

“The pope is profoundly saddened by their death, and is praying for them and for all migrants who have lost their lives while seeking to flee war and misery,” continued the statement signed by the director ad interim of the Vatican’s press office, Alessandro Gisotti

However,  the victims of the drowning weren’t fleeing war and misery.  

Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on June 27, 2019, 11:31:17 PM
Much of the problem at the border is because of Pope Francis:

“The pope is profoundly saddened by their death, and is praying for them and for all migrants who have lost their lives while seeking to flee war and misery,” continued the statement signed by the director ad interim of the Vatican’s press office, Alessandro Gisotti

However,  the victims of the drowning weren’t fleeing war and misery.  
When Pope Francis went to Mexico he laid the blame where it was, with the Mexican elite who misrule and mismanage their economy and their people so that they feel that they have to search for a life elsewhere.   
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 05:37:23 AM
http://choosing-him.blogspot.com/2019/03/francis-promotes-pervert-everyone-just.html (http://choosing-him.blogspot.com/2019/03/francis-promotes-pervert-everyone-just.html)

Pope Francis promotes pervert
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 05:51:17 AM
I have witnessed the Pope for myself when he came to America.  The Papal visit was really about pushing sodomy.  
He planned a meeting with his former student and his butt buddie long before the trip to USA.  Dc “the blessing to people” was not normal.  He failed to mention that unbelievers should turn to Jesus. 
During Papal visit he had a chance to talk to defend life and the holy Sacrament of marriage but he didn’t. 
During Philly Papal appearance sodomy was promoted and at there was incidents behind the scenes.  In NYC they used an openly practicing celebrity Sodomist as a lecture.  His actions or lack of speak for itself.  He has praised and even given medals to known abortionists.  



Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 05:53:24 AM
And how many times has the stations of the cross especially at world youth day events have been corrupted with sodomy with papal approval. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 05:58:12 AM
https://youtu.be/TrzrBjVDz6s (https://youtu.be/TrzrBjVDz6s)

Mother Angelica defends the faith...
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 06:02:33 AM
We are dealing with the smoke of satan coming from Rome.  

The evil influence of Satan was evident in the highest ranks of the Catholic hierarchy, with "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus and bishops who are linked to the demon," Father Amorth said.  ( Father Amorth was an exorcist)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 06:29:41 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-praises-mexico-welcoming-102026244.html (https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-praises-mexico-welcoming-102026244.html)

Poche.  Wake up.  Pope Francis is a communist pushing the evil agendas of the United Nations and devil worshippers  He says one thing and yet does another.  He praises Mexico  
While constantly publicly criticizing President Trump.  I didn’t hear anything from Pope Francis  condemning the leaders of countries where the people are fleeing from.   Pope Francis even does more to promote Islam then Catholicism.  Pope Francis is a man who condones and promotes mortal sin.  Yes, Jesus hung out with sinners but He advised to sin no more.  Poche, I was born and raised in novus ordo.  It was the church which started with my past sins instead of leading me towards heaven.  They don’t care about the poor either.  I know.  They have helped create the poor.  Don’t be a fool.  Stop defending man and choose Jesus.  Open up your Douay Rheim’s Bible.  There is only one God and that is Jesus.

Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 06:41:19 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993)
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 28, 2019, 06:43:11 AM
The event was criticized on the Catholic Television station EWTN (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWTN). In a 1993 episode of Mother Angelica Live, Mother Angelica (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Angelica) harshly criticized a mimed (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mime_artist) re-enactment of the Stations of the Cross (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stations_of_the_Cross) at the World Youth Day in Denver (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver), Colorado (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado), which was attended by Pope John Paul II (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_II). Mother Angelica was particularly upset that a woman was playing Jesus.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-3)Archbishop Rembert Weakland (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembert_Weakland) of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Milwaukee) called Mother Angelica's comments "...one of the most disgraceful, un-Christian, offensive, and divisive diatribes I have ever heard".[4] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-4) Mother Angelica responded by saying, "He didn't think a woman playing Jesus was offensive? He can go put his head in the back toilet as far as I am concerned!"[5] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-5)


(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Youth_Day_1993&action=edit&section=4)


Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: OHCA on July 04, 2019, 11:11:42 PM
Pope Francis just promulgated a decree that rejects gender ideology.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/vatican-document-on-gender-yes-to-dialogue-no-to-ideology.html)
His acceptance of NWO sex education is the clearest and most telling thing in this piece.  Any alleged rejection is overshadowed by the pansy-speak about mutual respect, not bullying, and etc. Luciferian inclusive hogwash.

When I saw this thread titled “Frank Said...,” I was expecting a collage of things like “Who am I to judge?”  “Proselytizing is solemn nonsense.”  “Trivial social issues.”  “Breeding like rabbits.”  “I see communism in the Church.”  And an assortment of things indicating his lack of any sort of Catholic notion regarding the Holy Trinity, the purity of Mary, etc.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on July 04, 2019, 11:39:32 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-praises-mexico-welcoming-102026244.html (https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-praises-mexico-welcoming-102026244.html)

Poche.  Wake up.  Pope Francis is a communist pushing the evil agendas of the United Nations and devil worshippers  He says one thing and yet does another.  He praises Mexico  
While constantly publicly criticizing President Trump.  I didn’t hear anything from Pope Francis  condemning the leaders of countries where the people are fleeing from.   Pope Francis even does more to promote Islam then Catholicism.  Pope Francis is a man who condones and promotes mortal sin.  Yes, Jesus hung out with sinners but He advised to sin no more.  Poche, I was born and raised in novus ordo.  It was the church which started with my past sins instead of leading me towards heaven.  They don’t care about the poor either.  I know.  They have helped create the poor.  Don’t be a fool.  Stop defending man and choose Jesus.  Open up your Douay Rheim’s Bible.  There is only one God and that is Jesus.
When Pope Francis was in Mexico he condemned their elite for the mismanagement and corruption of the economy that hs caused so many people to leave.
Title: Re: Pope Francis said
Post by: poche on July 04, 2019, 11:41:20 PM
The event was criticized on the Catholic Television station EWTN (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWTN). In a 1993 episode of Mother Angelica Live, Mother Angelica (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Angelica) harshly criticized a mimed (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mime_artist) re-enactment of the Stations of the Cross (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stations_of_the_Cross) at the World Youth Day in Denver (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver), Colorado (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado), which was attended by Pope John Paul II (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_II). Mother Angelica was particularly upset that a woman was playing Jesus.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-3)Archbishop Rembert Weakland (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembert_Weakland) of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Milwaukee) called Mother Angelica's comments "...one of the most disgraceful, un-Christian, offensive, and divisive diatribes I have ever heard".[4] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-4) Mother Angelica responded by saying, "He didn't think a woman playing Jesus was offensive? He can go put his head in the back toilet as far as I am concerned!"[5] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Youth_Day_1993#cite_note-5)


(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Youth_Day_1993&action=edit&section=4)

I saw that criticism live. It was the first time Dad sent any television personality any money.