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Offline Eudes

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« on: August 07, 2013, 12:37:04 PM »
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  • There was another revealing comment made by Pope Francis in one of the interviews surrounding World Youth Day.


    On the occasion of World Youth Day, Rio 2013, journalist Gerson Camarotti of Globo News, 29/07/2013, interviewed Pope Francisco.  Near the end of the interview (27:17), Francis came with a tremendous declaration which will have serious implications for the future.


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    I think it is important that we all work for others. Prune selfishness. A work by others, according to the values of the faith. Everyone, every Confession has its own belief, but according to the values of each one's faith, to work for the others. And we all find together to work for the others.

    If a child is hungry and has no education, what should interest us is to stop him being hungry and him to have education. If the education is given by Catholics, by Protestants, by Orthodox or by Jews, I do not care[/u]. What I am interested in is that he gets educated and that he is not more hungry. In that we have to agree.

    Today, the urgency is such that we can not fight among ourselves at the expense of others.

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    But the job of religions, of confessions is not beneficence. It is true. But at least, in our Catholic faith and other Christian faiths, we will be judged by these works of mercy.


    The note (in Spanish) and the video (Portuguese/Spanish, captioned in Portuguese) can be seen in the original source article here

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    "The most evident mark of God's anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of raveni

    Offline Mabel

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    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 12:44:03 PM »
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  • Education, here, obviously being a code word for indoctrination.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 12:51:01 PM »
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  • With Pope Francis, there are so so many "odd" remarks and "near" heresies that we are bound to overlook many of them only to be surprised at a later date.

    Does Pope Francis want to form a coalition of all Christian confessions under the banner of religion as the clerical arm of the one world order?  

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    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 12:59:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mabel
    Education, here, obviously being a code word for indoctrination.


    Absolutely

    I recall hearing Dr. William Marra talk about his decision to homeschool his children. One of his sons, who was 8 years old at the time, came home from a "Catholic" school and told him that the miracles in the Bible were myths. I believe this incident happened in the 1970s or early 1980s. Things have only gotten worse nice then.

    No wonder he received congratulations from Madonic lodges upon his election.
    "The most evident mark of God's anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of raveni

    Offline ClarkSmith

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    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 01:22:30 PM »
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  • I think "to instruct the ignorant" means to instruct the ignorant on faith. "To instruct the ignorant" is included with spiritual works of mercy and not corporal works of mercy.  

    Works of mercy are futile without having the Catholic faith, correct?  


    Offline MiserereMeiDeus

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    « Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 01:39:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    With Pope Francis, there are so so many "odd" remarks and "near" heresies that we are bound to overlook many of them only to be surprised at a later date.

    Does Pope Francis want to form a coalition of all Christian confessions under the banner of religion as the clerical arm of the one world order?  


    He seems to be more pan-religious than that. Why stop at Christian when you can include Hindu fakirs and Voodoo priestesses? John Paul the Totally Awesome and Benedict, who seem almost Trads in comparison to Francis, were fine with those sorts.
    "Jesus was the fruit of Mary, as Elizabeth expressed it: 'Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.' Whoever wishes for the fruit, must go to the tree; whoever wishes for Jesus must go to Mary; and he who finds Mary, also certain

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    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 01:42:55 PM »
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  • Good catch, Eudes.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 07, 2013, 03:41:13 PM »
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  • Education, particularly higher education, college USED to be a privilege for those who had inclinations and callings towards it. Now it's almost a requirement to be accepted within our society.

    Even worse, the degrees don't guarantee a job after graduation. College tuition is unaffordable to most people which is why they need debt, which cannot be discharged even in bankruptcy - in other words, debt slave.

    Allowing an ignorant teenager seeking self improvement, education and future employment to accept six figure amounts of debt, should be criminalized.

    A child born today will need $250,000-$700,000 (at current yearly rises) to afford a typical 4 year degree. So as "responsible" parents we "should" save and sacrifice for their benefit! (I jest).

    As a parent, why would we want to send out children to an environment which promotes behavior contrary to all we've taught and warned them about? They come home to ridicule our religion, belittle our ways because they've become so worldly from such learned minds from their expensive inculcation. Then what? They leave the faith, value secularism and condemn their own family.



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    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 04:06:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pope Francis
    If the education is given by Catholics, by Protestants, by Orthodox or by Jews, I do not care[/u]. What I am interested in is that he gets educated and that he is not more hungry. In that we have to agree.


    So, here we have Pope Francis admitting that he does not care about the state of the soul, as long as the belly is full.
    In a Station of the Metro
    The apparition of these faces in the crowd;
    Petals on a wet, black bough.

     

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