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Offline cosmas

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Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
« on: August 02, 2019, 10:01:34 PM »
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    • FALSE TRADITIONALIST: MONS. SCHNEIDER STILL ATTORNEY FOR REGULARIZATION OF THE SSPX

     
     As you can see, Bishop Schneider is an ecuмenist, and his ecuмenism is not limited to the SSPX ...

    A letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith addressed to the Superior of the Fraternity Saint Pius X has recently been made public, in which it seems that on the part of Rome it was reversed back to the point where it broke With Benedict XVI. The apparent success of the current negotiations was based on the fact that the problematic issues related to Vatican II were apparently considered by Rome to be subject to further discussion, whereas now they are once again demanded as a priori a firm assent to the whole Vatican II and to some parts of the post-conciliar magisterium that still gives rise to some doubts.Could you give us some light on this situation and your opinion?
     
    MONS. SCHNEIDER: To me personally this letter made me very sad, because I was one of the visitors of the Holy See sent two years ago to the SSPX. There were four bishops. I was one of them. I submitted a report and proposed some solution, and now almost everything we did has been totally useless. I think it is very antipastoral. That during three years the Holy See tried to promote visitations, not to follow a maximalist way, but a pastoral way of pastoral integration of these realities of the Church, the SSPX to give them an opportunity to participate fully in the structure of the Church.
    I think it is a very antipastoral gesture, and contrary to all the rhetoric of mercy that is done, unfortunately.And if, on the other hand, the whole Council is implicitly infallible, which is contrary to all Tradition ... The Council is not infallible, according to its own statements, and Popes John XXIII and Paul VI said on many occasions that the CVII had only one Pastoral end Paul VI said many times that the Council did not proclaim new doctrines contrary to the previous one. So, if nothing has changed, why that attitude? I do not see any legitimate reason to demand that.
    For example, there is much talk of ecuмenism now, with much generosity, and the least is required in the conversations with the Orthodox, with the Lutherans ... The minimum is demanded. But within the Church, it begins to demand the maximum. On the contrary, the SSPX believes in its perpetual dogmas. All dogmas.Everybody. While the Orthodox Church denies the dogma of infallibility, the primacy of the Pope, for example, and the Holy See very cautious, it does not require much, only the indispensable.
    For example, I know the orthodox well because I live there in the midst of them, I know their mentality.With regard to the conversion of Russia, not only for me, there are others who have also seen it. A clandestine saint who died in the persecution in Kazakhstan is of the same opinion. He said that the conversion of Russia means in the end that the Russian Orthodox Church joins the Pope, to Rome. That is your conversion. I believe it, and I hope so. If the Russian Orthodox Church accepts the primacy of the Pope, it will be a miracle, if it accepts the dogma of the Pope's infallibility, the dogma of the Immaculate Conception (which he does not accept today) and says to the Holy See: Your dogmas, but the Second Vatican Council is strange for us: that it is pastoral, that language is not always clear, all that of religious freedom, ecuмenism, etc. We are not very convinced, and some statements of the Magisterium are not true.All the rest we accept.
    Imagine, if the Orthodox Church were to turn, it would soon see that the Holy See immediately gave them the ecclesiastical communion, without demanding what they still do not agree with. This is safe. Surely you could ask: "Would you do with the Orthodox the same as they are doing with the FSSSPX?" No. That's why I think it very doubtful, but Divine Providence always acts, and although I think the time has not yet come, Will arrive when God wills.
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    ADDENDUM: The FSSPX recently published a shameful article in which it is intended to prove that Monsignor Schneider is not a liberal and that he is more or less at the same level as Monsignor Lefebvre. 



    Bishop Schneider concelebrating the new Mass
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    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2019, 05:30:19 AM »
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    • He's Francis's conservative "pitch-man"... for those foolish enough to listen to his deceitful messages.





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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2019, 10:22:38 AM »
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    • So if Schneider is not Trad, and I agree, who is in the Vatican 2 sect hierarchy?
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2019, 10:36:06 AM »
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    • Notice that +Schneider does not conjoin his thumb and finger (irreverent Novus Ordo rubric), while it appears the priest to his left in the pic might be.

    If +Schneider was, at least subjectively, a traditionalist at heart, one would think he would at least retain those minor traditional rubrics where such could be retained almost imperceptibly.

    Yet the purified digits irreverently raised in a tai chi pose betray the thoughts of the heart:

    This man is a man of the revolution, and not Tradition.
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    Offline King Wenceslas

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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2019, 11:02:17 AM »
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    • If anyone actually believes that a newchurch bishop gets to become a newchurch bishop without signing on to ecuмenism and religious liberty, I have a bridge to sell you.
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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 05:48:53 PM »
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    • All this is saying is, if Rome would be ecunemical in its attitude toward the East, despite their rejection of certain dogmas, HOW MUCH MORE the SSPX, which affirms every single one?

    I don't see him necessarily endorsing a particular attitude toward the East here, per se.  And even if he is, he's still a very, very good bishop.  I'm sure not perfect, but good.
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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 05:55:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on August 05, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
    All this is saying is, if Rome would be ecunemical in its attitude toward the East, despite their rejection of certain dogmas, HOW MUCH MORE the SSPX, which affirms every single one?

    I don't see him necessarily endorsing a particular attitude toward the East here, per se.  And even if he is, he's still a very, very good bishop.  I'm sure not perfect, but good.
    The Eastern Orthodox bishops are real bishops, but heretics and schismatic. Schneider, like Bergolio, may not even be a priest, let alone bishop, and they are both heretics belonging to a false religion, the Vatican II sect. Both the Eastern Orthodox and the Vatican II sect are the same dung in different packaging.
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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2019, 06:16:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on August 05, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
    All this is saying is, if Rome would be ecunemical in its attitude toward the East, despite their rejection of certain dogmas, HOW MUCH MORE the SSPX, which affirms every single one?

    I don't see him necessarily endorsing a particular attitude toward the East here, per se.  And even if he is, he's still a very, very good bishop.  I'm sure not perfect, but good.

    You have lost your bearings:

    There is no such thing as a good bishop that says the new Mass.

    Soon, many SSPXers will think like you, and like you, they will resent being told so.

    It is a new species that thinks this way, without ever realizing it has come to terms with the revolution, and compromised with it.

    Is his Novus Ordo pleasing to God?
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    Re: Mons.Schneider False Traditionalist
    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2019, 10:58:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on August 05, 2019, 06:16:22 PM
    Soon, many SSPXers will think like you, and like you, they will resent being told so.

    Perhaps, but I'm not SSPX, I'm in the Eastern Rite so...
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