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Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 11:16:11 AM »
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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 11:46:21 AM »
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  • Jorge Bergoglio must be rejected.

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 01:03:11 PM »
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  • https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/6269-should-god-apologize-to-sodom/


    Michael Matt asks: who are the baddies and who are the goodies? Well, we know who the baddies are, but the badness didn't start with them, and it probably won't end with them. It started at least two centuries ago, with the Freemasons.

    In the publication known as the Protocols of the Sages of Sion, the plan is laid out. Fr. Edward Cahill wrote about this problem (as did Fr. Fahey, another Irish priest). Here are a few quotes from the protocols, as published in Hugh Akins' outline of Fr. Cahill's book on the subject.

    From the Protocols:

    "Until the time when we attain power we will try to create and multiply lodges of Freemasons in all parts of the world....these lodges will be the principle places from which we will attain our information, as well as being centers of our propaganda. We will centralize these lodges under one management known to us alone, which will consist of our learned men....

    "All of the wheels of the mechanism of the State are set in motion by a power which is in our hands, that is to say, gold....On the ruins of the natural and hereditary aristocracy we have set up the aristocracy of our educated class, and over all the aristocracy of money...

    "In order to keep them [the people] for discovering for themselves any new line of action in politics, we will distract them by various kinds of amusements, games, pastimes, public-houses (bars, clubs, etc.), and so on. Soon we will start advertising in the press, inviting people to enter for various competitions in all manner of enterprises, such as art, sport, etc. These new interests will definitely distract the public mind from such questions as we have to contest with the people.

    "We will encourage the love for boundless luxury, which we have already developed. We will increase the wages, which will not help the workman; for at the same time we will raise the prices of prime necessities, taking as a pretext the bad return of agriculture. we will also artfully undermine the basis of production by sowing the seeds of anarchy among the workmen, and encouraging them in the drinking of spirits [and the use of drugs].....We will conceal the true position of affairs by an apparent desire to help the working-classes in solving great economic problems.

    "In the whole of Europe, and on other continents with the help of Europe, we must promote dissentions and mutual hostility...

    "We must be in a position to meet every opposition with a declaration of war on the part of the neighboring counties of that state which dares to stand in our way, but if such neighbors in their turn were to decide to unite in opposing us we must respond by creating a universal war....

    [...]

    "We have taken great care to discredit the clergy of the gentiles in the eyes of the people, and have succeeded in injuring their mission which could have been very much in our way. The influence of the clergy on the people is diminishing daily. Today freedom of religion prevails everywhere, and the time is only a few years off when Christianity will fall to pieces altogether.....



    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 01:53:38 PM »
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    Bernardo,

    On this forum, you can't say that.

    Many "resistance" members still believe in R&R (newChurch schsim's validity) and that the Pachamama pope's novus ordo missaes... still yield graces.

    If you say what you said... you are considered a bad trad.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 02:02:38 PM »
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  • Unfortunately Jorge Bergoglio occupies the papacy with its supreme power. Whether God recognises him as pope or not we the flock are not permitted to judge, that is Catholic teaching. Beware the Devil's tricks. And yes, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ has been active to oppose Church teaching since Galileo's time. It was they who fooled popes into ignoring the definitions and declarations of previous 'traditional' popes on the Bible in 1820 that began the road from supernaturalism into naturalism.

    On January 3rd, 1997, the following report appeared in The Catholic Herald, an English weekly newspaper:

    ‘The Grand Orient of Italy decided to award the Pontiff Pope John Paul II with the Order of Galileo Galilei, the highest form of recognition able to be made by Italy’s freemasons to a non-member, in recognition for his promotion of universal masonic values of fraternity, respect for the dignity of man, and the spirit of tolerance… Our intention is to pay homage to a man (the Pope] who, unlike his predecessors, showed himself to be extremely open-minded, rehabilitating Galileo, promoting a critical analysis of the Inquisition [etc.].’---Catholic Herald.

    The secret papers of the Alta Vendita (written in the early 1800s), highest lodge of the Italian secret society, the Carbonari; acquired by Pope Gregory XVI, and, on the orders of Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII, was published by Cretineau-Joly in his work The Roman Church and Revolution, reprinted in 1885 and many times since.
    Let us recall here the ‘Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita,’  otherwise known as the ‘Alta Vendita Plan’ discovered in 1820 [U-turn year], whose ultimate end is that of Voltaire and the French Revolution which speaks of working for a generation that will rejoice in having a pope ‘according to our wants’ and of a clergy who will ‘march under our banner in the belief always that they march under the banner of the Apostolic Keys.’ In the above report, we see the masters of Italian Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ - whose ultimate aim is the total victory of the Antichrist - honour Pope John Paul II with an award named after Galileo Galilei. Coming as it does in a Catholic newspaper, openly and without inhibition, clearly illustrates the connection between Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, the victory of their heretical heliocentrism and its acceptance by popes since 1820.

    The Alta Vendita plan tells of an era of infiltration into the Catholic Church by the Carbonari, who had links with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, so that they could introduce into Catholicism their liberal and progressive ideals and principles, a revolution and reformation that finally manifested itself at that pastoral council Vatican II (1962-65). History shows us that one by one, the popes of Vatican II were liberal and progressive, introducing and allowing changes to Catholicism undreamed of before and making themselves saints one after the other all trying to make the post-Vatican II look like the most Catholic era of all in history.

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 02:09:54 PM »
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  • What is more interesting in this video is the current anti-homo, pro Adam and Eve marriage in the Russia of today. Talk about a turnaround. Today it is those in Rome and such post Catholic states who are spreading the anti-Catholic errors. Surely this is a Fatima in reverse. Any opinions on this?

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2022, 02:13:35 PM »
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  • Unfortunately Jorge Bergoglio occupies the papacy with its supreme power. Whether God recognises him as pope or not we the flock are not permitted to judge, that is Catholic teaching. Beware the Devil's tricks. And yes, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ has been active to oppose Church teaching since Galileo's time. It was they who fooled popes into ignoring the definitions and declarations of previous 'traditional' popes on the Bible in 1820 that began the road from supernaturalism into naturalism.

    On January 3rd, 1997, the following report appeared in The Catholic Herald, an English weekly newspaper:

    ‘The Grand Orient of Italy decided to award the Pontiff Pope John Paul II with the Order of Galileo Galilei, the highest form of recognition able to be made by Italy’s freemasons to a non-member, in recognition for his promotion of universal masonic values of fraternity, respect for the dignity of man, and the spirit of tolerance… Our intention is to pay homage to a man (the Pope] who, unlike his predecessors, showed himself to be extremely open-minded, rehabilitating Galileo, promoting a critical analysis of the Inquisition [etc.].’---Catholic Herald.

    The secret papers of the Alta Vendita (written in the early 1800s), highest lodge of the Italian secret society, the Carbonari; acquired by Pope Gregory XVI, and, on the orders of Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII, was published by Cretineau-Joly in his work The Roman Church and Revolution, reprinted in 1885 and many times since.
    Let us recall here the ‘Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita,’  otherwise known as the ‘Alta Vendita Plan’ discovered in 1820 [U-turn year], whose ultimate end is that of Voltaire and the French Revolution which speaks of working for a generation that will rejoice in having a pope ‘according to our wants’ and of a clergy who will ‘march under our banner in the belief always that they march under the banner of the Apostolic Keys.’ In the above report, we see the masters of Italian Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ - whose ultimate aim is the total victory of the Antichrist - honour Pope John Paul II with an award named after Galileo Galilei. Coming as it does in a Catholic newspaper, openly and without inhibition, clearly illustrates the connection between Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, the victory of their heretical heliocentrism and its acceptance by popes since 1820.

    The Alta Vendita plan tells of an era of infiltration into the Catholic Church by the Carbonari, who had links with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, so that they could introduce into Catholicism their liberal and progressive ideals and principles, a revolution and reformation that finally manifested itself at that pastoral council Vatican II (1962-65). History shows us that one by one, the popes of Vatican II were liberal and progressive, introducing and allowing changes to Catholicism undreamed of before and making themselves saints one after the other all trying to make the post-Vatican II look like the most Catholic era of all in history.

    This is the reality and makes things far worse than the sede position envisions because it demands a difficult response few are willing to do.  


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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #8 on: December 04, 2022, 02:14:36 PM »
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  • Bernardo,

    On this forum, you can't say that.

    Many "resistance" members still believe in R&R (newChurch schsim's validity) and that the Pachamama pope's novus ordo missaes... still yield graces.

    If you say what you said... you are considered a bad trad.

    The arguments of the sedevacantists make the most sense to me. I don't mind one bit if I'm considered a bad trad for taking their position. 

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #9 on: December 04, 2022, 03:23:39 PM »
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  • The arguments of the sedevacantists make the most sense to me. I don't mind one bit if I'm considered a bad trad for taking their position.
    Bernardo, I think Incred was being facetious.  You can certainly say he's not the pope on this forum.  You'll just find a lot of push back on it.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2022, 03:26:26 PM »
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  • Bernardo,

    On this forum, you can't say that.

    Many "resistance" members still believe in R&R (newChurch schsim's validity) and that the Pachamama pope's novus ordo missaes... still yield graces.

    If you say what you said... you are considered a bad trad.

    :laugh2:


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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2022, 04:40:45 PM »
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  • Bernardo, I think Incred was being facetious.  You can certainly say he's not the pope on this forum.  You'll just find a lot of push back on it.

    A lot of push back? By whom? All of the three or four, maybe five of us on this forum who are not sedevacantists?

    :laugh1:

    Right, sedevacantists are just so persecuted here.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #12 on: December 04, 2022, 04:48:46 PM »
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  • A lot of push back? By whom? All of the three or four, maybe five of us on this forum who are not sedevacantists?

    :laugh1:

    Right, sedevacantists are just so persecuted here.
    Not surprised by your post, but "a lot of push back" doesn't have to mean by a bunch of people.  It could just be a really vocal group...even just 3 or 4 or 5 people. ;-)  It also doesn't have to mean we're "persecuted".
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #13 on: December 04, 2022, 05:13:56 PM »
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  • A lot of push back? By whom? All of the three or four, maybe five of us on this forum who are not sedevacantists?

    :laugh1:

    Right, sedevacantists are just so persecuted here.
    I go to an R and R chapel. Even if you believe in the validity of the Vll Popes, you have to admit that the current occupant excommunicated himself Latae Sententiae with all of his manifest heresies; ergo he is no longer the Pope or even a Catholic.
     
    Done by his own hand.

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    Re: Pope Francis must be resisted.
    « Reply #14 on: December 04, 2022, 05:27:36 PM »
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  • I go to an R and R chapel. Even if you believe in the validity of the Vll Popes, you have to admit that the current occupant excommunicated himself Latae Sententiae with all of his manifest heresies; ergo he is no longer the Pope or even a Catholic.
     
    Done by his own hand.

    I'd agree but isn't the paper trail of Ratzinger at least as long?  The protege of Rahner, Ratzinger is the very embodiment/poster child for all things Vatican II.