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Offline cosmas

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POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:55:45 PM »
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    • The Bronze Reliquary Containing Sacred Relics
    Of St. Peter, Which Francis-Bergoglio Has Given
    To Be Kept Permanently by a Schismatic Orthodox Patriarch
    Symbolically, Bergoglio Is Telling the World
    That He Rejects the Catholic Faith and His Office
    One Newvatican Official Suggested
    That St. Peter's Protection Has Left Newvatican
    And that Bergoglio Would Next Give
    The Relics of St. Paul to the Heretical Protestants
    Francis-Bergoglio's latest religious crime is to ascond with the First Class Relics of St. Peter, i.e., the remains of his bones, and hand them over to a schismatic Eastern Orthodox patriarch. At least the Eastern Orthodox will treat them with the respect due them, which the blasphemous Bergoglio has not. The nine bone fragments of St. Peter were discovered in the 1939 excavations of the Vatican necropolis by Pope Pius XI.
    On June 29, 2019, the Feast of Sts. Peter & Paul, Francis-Bergoglio symbolically resigned from the office of Newpope as he gave the schismatic Orthodox "Oecuмenical" Patriarch Bartholomew the Sacred Relics of the first pope. Thenceforth, his act indicates, Jorge does not regard himself as a real pope; Bartholomew is. Bartholomew's representative at Rome, however, did not seem pleased with the transfer of St. Peter's relics. He said: 典he Orthodox Church has never asked for them since they never belonged to the Church of Constantinople." At least the schismatic is an honest man, not Bergoglio.
    Symbolically, Francis-Bergoglio is rejecting the Catholic Faith. Bergoglio's act is reminiscent of Paul VI-Montini giving away the papal tiara away in 1968, just after the Vatican II Anti-council ended. Both Montini and Bergoglio essentially told the world: "I am not a pope. I reject the papal office." The relics of the man whom Bergoglio claims to succeed are intimately associated to the papal office. The bronze reliquary in which the Petrine bone remnants repose is inscribed with Christ's original commission (Matthew 16:18/V): TU ES PETRUS, ET SUPER HANC PETRAM ﾆDIFICABO ECCLESIAM MEAM. [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the Zenit News Agency.]
    True Catholics, it is hard to Bergoglio's act as anything other than an essential renunciation of the Newpapacy and the Catholic Church. By his public defection from the Catholic Faith in numerous heresies since his election, Bergoglio has tacitly resigned from his office, as confirmed by Canon Law 188.4. The consequence from Catholic doctrine is clear: such an imposter cannot be followed by faithful Catholics, but rather must be shunned altogether.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2019, 10:22:24 PM »
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    • This struck me as about the most egregious thing he has done.  I don’t think he’s renouncing his trappings of power that he enjoys by erroneously being identified as “pope.”  I think it telegraphs a plan to be the last “pope” though.  Throughout his “papacy,” I have seen hints that he wants to end the papacy.

    I believe this would have merited a pig-roasting in saner times.   :heretic:
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2019, 10:49:03 PM »
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    • Relics don't make the papacy. Popes have given away relics for some time as gestures of goodwill.

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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2019, 11:43:37 PM »
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    • Hopefully the Russian Orthodox will see their way to reunify with the Catholic Church.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #4 on: July 05, 2019, 05:46:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: confederate catholic on July 04, 2019, 10:49:03 PM
    Relics don't make the papacy. Popes have given away relics for some time as gestures of goodwill.
    Please give an example of a pope (obviously pre-Vat II) who gave a sacred relic to any non-Catholic.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #5 on: July 05, 2019, 07:05:57 AM »
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    • Reminds me of Paul VI giving the PApal Tiara to UN.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #6 on: July 05, 2019, 10:54:08 AM »
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    • You do understand that the major churches in Rome belong to the Patriarchs right. The Popes church is the Lateran. St. Peters belongs to Constantinople, etc. You can't actually give away relics that already belong to someone else. For good or ill the mutual excommunication was lifted by Paul VI.
    I never said pre VII it is Not me who wrote the idiotic claim that Francis was abandoning the Papacy because he gave a few bone fragments away ( like other Popes have done)
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #7 on: July 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM »
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    • Were these relics that rightly belonged to the Eastern Orthodox, but were taken from them by force at some point?  Or were these relics that belonged to Rome that Francis just up and gave away?  'cause that does seem different.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #8 on: July 05, 2019, 11:56:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
    Were these relics that rightly belonged to the Eastern Orthodox, but were taken from them by force at some point?  Or were these relics that belonged to Rome that Francis just up and gave away?  'cause that does seem different.
    They always belonged to Rome, the article even quotes the Orthodox admitting that and expressing their bewilderment at the gift.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #9 on: July 05, 2019, 12:22:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 05, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
    Were these relics that rightly belonged to the Eastern Orthodox, but were taken from them by force at some point?  Or were these relics that belonged to Rome that Francis just up and gave away?  'cause that does seem different.

    These relics can only rightfully belong to the Holy Catholic Church, not to any schismatic sect.  They were not Bergoglio's to give away.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 12:43:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2019, 12:22:34 PM
    These relics can only rightfully belong to the Holy Catholic Church, not to any schismatic sect.  They were not Bergoglio's to give away.
    :applause: Some people just don’t get it!
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #11 on: July 05, 2019, 01:51:57 PM »
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    • Byzcat they always belonged to Rome, and this is unprecedented and wrong for the Relics of Peter unify Christendom around Rome, where Peter died.
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #12 on: July 05, 2019, 02:31:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: confederate catholic on July 05, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
    You do understand that the major churches in Rome belong to the Patriarchs right. The Popes church is the Lateran. St. Peters belongs to Constantinople, etc. You can't actually give away relics that already belong to someone else. For good or ill the mutual excommunication was lifted by Paul VI.

    Where did you get that?
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #13 on: July 05, 2019, 03:25:47 PM »
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    • Historical fact, abandoned by Benedict XVI who changed the name from patriarchal basilicas to Papal basilicas
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    in 2006, Pope Benedict XVI officially renamed the "patriarchal basilicas" as "Papal basilicas".[6] The five, formerly styled "patriarchal basilicas" of Rome, were previously assigned to and associated with the five ancient patriarchates of the Latin Church, or the Pentarchy:[7]

        Saint John Lateran was associated with Rome (Patriarch of the West),
        Saint Peter's with Constantinople (Latin Patriarch of Constantinople),
        Saint Paul's with Alexandria (Latin Patriarch of Alexandria),
        Saint Mary Major with Antioch (Latin Patriarch of Antioch), and
        Saint Lawrence with Jerusalem (Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem).
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    Re: POPE Francis Mocks Saint Peter
    « Reply #14 on: July 05, 2019, 03:59:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: confederate catholic on July 05, 2019, 03:25:47 PM
    Historical fact, abandoned by Benedict XVI who changed the name from patriarchal basilicas to Papal basilicas

    I can't find anything more than a vague association with or symbolic value to those Patriarchates. Those churches certainly never belonged to any of them.
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