Author Topic: Pope Francis Mass - Consecration of Hosts? (Read 1972 times)

bowler · « **on:** April 12, 2013, 12:44:15 PM »

This is a picture of men filling the "chalices" at the papal mass. My question is; Where are all of these hosts during the consecration? I didn't see them on the altar.

Nadir · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2013, 01:16:35 PM »

Any birds flying over?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2013, 02:08:33 PM »

Good Question, Bowler

SilentWaters · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2013, 07:58:25 PM »

Good Question, Nadir

pat · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2013, 09:22:09 PM »

makes one go :confused1:

JPaul · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2013, 10:14:37 PM »

gives a new meaning to the phrase "mass" production... :scratchchin:

Napoli · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2013, 12:12:23 AM »

Hmmmmmmm....... Honestly, what did we expect? Changes? Any move to Orthodoxy? Admittingthat they were wrong? RRealising the Church has basically gone underground? Nahhhh.... They will continue to live a lie. God Have Mercy on us.

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2013, 05:48:59 AM »

The Novus Ordo does not require hosts to be actually on the altar. In fact, there is no absolute rule as to where the hosts musts be to be "consecrated" by the "pope" during these papal maga-masses.

I remember reading an article about this in a Conciliar rag before one of John Paul 2's shows being held at Yankee Stadium in New York. Apparently, various congregations in the Vatican were debating about "how far away" the hosts could be from the altar in order to be "valid" (whatever that means to the Modernists).

The article did not say that any definitive decision was ever made, but the consensus seemed to be that whatever hosts the celebrant "had the intention to consecrate" would be consecrated. Therefore, if the celebrant is saying the Novus Ordo at the outside makeshift Cranmer's Table in St. Peter's Square and has the intention of consecrating the hosts on the side table too, then that's all that is required. Then at communion time, he can go sit down while hundreds of designated priests, deacons, and others can go pick up a bowl full of "consecrated hosts" and distribute communion to the millions of fans in attendance.

bowler · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2013, 05:54:19 AM »

Quote from: TKGS

The Novus Ordo does not require hosts to be actually on the altar. In fact, there is no absolute rule as to where the hosts musts be to be "consecrated" by the "pope" during these papal maga-masses.

I remember reading an article about this in a Conciliar rag before one of John Paul 2's shows being held at Yankee Stadium in New York. Apparently, various congregations in the Vatican were debating about "how far away" the hosts could be from the altar in order to be "valid" (whatever that means to the Modernists).

The article did not say that any definitive decision was ever made, but the consensus seemed to be that whatever hosts the celebrant "had the intention to consecrate" would be consecrated. Therefore, if the celebrant is saying the Novus Ordo at the outside makeshift Cranmer's Table in St. Peter's Square and has the intention of consecrating the hosts on the side table too, then that's all that is required. Then at communion time, he can go sit down while hundreds of designated priests, deacons, and others can go pick up a bowl full of "consecrated hosts" and distribute communion to the millions of fans in attendance.

Therefore, we do not know what the pope or priest is consecrating outside of the corporal, since they could intend to consecrate all of the bread in the world so that everyone can can communion with God.

TKGS · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2013, 02:43:56 PM »

Quote from: bowler

Therefore, we do not know what the pope or priest is consecrating outside of the corporal, since they could intend to consecrate all of the bread in the world so that everyone can communion with God.

I guess that was why they were debating about the maximum distance. I really don't know if they ever came up with a final decision or ended the debate. In the end, I suspect that they decided it really didn't matter.