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Pope Francis: Heretics Can Be Saints!
« on: April 04, 2014, 07:23:49 PM »
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  • http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/486-francis-heretics-can-be-saints

    Another day, another bombshell in the Conciliar Church. In his homily today during Friday Mass in Santa Marta, the Pope relayed the following to the congregation:

    "Many thinkers in the Church were persecuted, as well. I think of one, now, at this moment, not so far from us: a man of good will, a prophet indeed, who, in his writings reproached the Church for having lost the way of the Lord. He was summoned in short order, his books were placed on the index [the list of works that were banned or restricted to experts because of their problematic, erroneous and even heretical content], they took away his teaching positions – and thus, this man’s life ended – and it was not so long ago. [Now] time has passed, and today he is Blessed. How is it, though, that he, who yesterday was a heretic, is today a Blessed of the Church? It is because yesterday, those who had power wanted to silence him because they did not like what he was saying. Today the Church, who, thanks be to God knows repent, says, ‘No, this man is good!’. Moreover, he is on the way to sainthood: He is a Blessed.”

    Notice that Francis does not say that the heretic in this example repented. No, it was the Church who apparently repented and saw the light! Of course this vision of sainthood immediately opens up new vistas for progressives. One can already see liberals using this as a basis of rehabilitation and potential sainthood for all of the notorious Modernists condemned by Pius X such as Loisy and Terrell.  After all, wasn't it Francis' right hand man, Cardinal Maradiaga who said:

    “The Second Vatican Council was the main event in the Church in the 20th Century. In principle, it meant an end to the hostilities between the Church and modernism, which was condemned in the First Vatican Council”

    Further, what does this mean for Francis' concept of sainthood? Can the Church's previous condemnations of heresy be in error? Can dogma "evolve" to the point where what was formerly heretical is now seen as good? Can what was once obstinate defiance turn into "heroic virtue"? And if Francis sees even previous heretics worthy of canonization, did not Remnant columnist Peter Crenshaw have a point when he recently asked the following:

    "If, on April 27, 2014 Pope Francis declares John Paul II to be a “saint”, but by “saint” he means an “ecuмenical witness to the Faith” which could just as well be someone like the Baptist Martin Luther King or the Lutheran Dietrich Bonhoeffer, is he truly intending to use papal infallibility to bind what the Church has always bound in a canonization? Or is he rather formally recognizing ecuмenical examples whose lives he believes we can learn from?"


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    Pope Francis: Heretics Can Be Saints!
    « Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 07:45:42 PM »
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  • Who is Frank talking about?
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 07:30:09 AM »
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  • Though he's not talking about him, it sounds like he's paving the way for the canonization of Martin Luther.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 10:04:44 AM »
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  • Formal heretic.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 01:30:57 PM »
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  • I've come to the conclusion that not only is Bergoglio an apostate, he's pure evil.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 01:44:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Who is Frank talking about?


    My best guess he is talking about Saint Martin Luther or even Saint Judas.

    Makes little difference.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2014, 02:18:42 PM »
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  • Anti-Christ!
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    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 02:32:19 PM »
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  •  "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Antichrist." Our Lady of La Salette



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    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 03:40:27 PM »
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  • "As a sacrament of intimate union with God, the Church is in Christ, outside whom there is no salvation." - Pope John Paul II


    "The mystery of salvation is revealed to us and is continued and accomplished in the Church, and from this genuine and single source, like "humble, useful, precious and chaste" water it reaches the whole world. Dear young people and members of the Faithful, like Brother Francis we have to be conscious of and absorb this fundamental and revealed truth contained in the phrase consecrated by tradition: there is no salvation outside the Church. From Her alone there flows surely and fully the life giving force destined in Christ and in His Spirit, to renew the whole of humanity, and therefore directing every human being to become a part of the Mystical Body of Christ." - Pope John Paul II (1981)

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    « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 08:24:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: andysloan
    "As a sacrament of intimate union with God, the Church is in Christ, outside whom there is no salvation." - Pope John Paul II


    "The mystery of salvation is revealed to us and is continued and accomplished in the Church, and from this genuine and single source, like "humble, useful, precious and chaste" water it reaches the whole world. Dear young people and members of the Faithful, like Brother Francis we have to be conscious of and absorb this fundamental and revealed truth contained in the phrase consecrated by tradition: there is no salvation outside the Church. From Her alone there flows surely and fully the life giving force destined in Christ and in His Spirit, to renew the whole of humanity, and therefore directing every human being to become a part of the Mystical Body of Christ." - Pope John Paul II (1981)


    Don't you know...his humbleness has changed everything! The only one that can't be saved is those evil trads!!