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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: crossbro on June 21, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
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How about excommunicating the sɛҳuąƖly immoral gαys ?
I am sure the thieves and the cut throats of the mafia really care what he thinks.
How about all the gαys who claim to be catholic ? Why not send them a message ? That is where the message needs to be sent.
Why not proclaim serial killers are excommunicated while you are at it ? I am sure that will scare them too into mending their ways too, el stupido.
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-excommunicates-sicilian-mafia-takes-cannoli-170244805.html)
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He will probably wake up one morning and find an oily bus engine in his bed.
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How about excommunicating the sɛҳuąƖly immoral gαys ?
I am sure the thieves and the cut throats of the mafia really care what he thinks.
How about all the gαys who claim to be catholic ? Why not send them a message ? That is where the message needs to be sent.
Why not proclaim serial killers are excommunicated while you are at it ? I am sure that will scare them too into mending their ways too, el stupido.
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-excommunicates-sicilian-mafia-takes-cannoli-170244805.html)
Wouldn't starting with the Mafia be a start. Just so that they don't spend an hour at mass and then spend the rest of the week trafficking in prostitution, drugs, and illegal drugs, killing and stealing as a normal course of business.
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Pope Francis journeyed Saturday to the heart of Italy's biggest crime syndicate, met the father of a 3-year-old boy slain in the region's drug war, and declared that all mobsters are automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
During his one-day pilgrimage to the southern region of Calabria, Francis comforted the imprisoned father of Nicola Campolongo in the courtyard of a prison in the town of Castrovillari.
In January the boy was shot, along with one of his grandfathers and the grandfather's girlfriend, in an attack blamed on drug turf wars in the nearby town of Cassano all'Jonio. The attackers torched the car with all three victims inside.
The boy's father and mother already were in jail at the time on drug trafficking charges. The pope had expressed his horror following the attack and promised to visit the town.
Francis embraced the man. He asked the pope to pray for the boy's mother, who was permitted to leave prison following her son's slaying and remains under house arrest. The pope also met two of the boy's grandmothers.
A Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini, said Francis told the father: "May children never again have to suffer in this way."
"The two grandmothers were weeping like fountains," Benedettini added.
Calabria is the power base of the 'ndrangheta, a global drug trafficking syndicate that enriches itself by extorting businesses and infiltrating public works contracts in underdeveloped Calabria.
During his homily at an outdoor Mass, Francis denounced the 'ndrangheta for what he called its "adoration of evil and contempt for the common good. "
"Those who go down the evil path, as the Mafiosi do, are not in communion with God. They are excommunicated," he warned.
Francis greeted about 200 other prisoners during his visit there.
When Francis visited a hospice, a doctor there removed a bothersome wooden splinter from one of the pope's fingers at his request, organizers said.
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-denounces-mafia-meets-father-slain-boy-165953264.html
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Wouldn't starting with the Mafia be a start. Just so that they don't spend an hour at mass and then spend the rest of the week trafficking in prostitution, drugs, and illegal drugs, killing and stealing as a normal course of business.
Sure, but if he is going to be consistent about rooting out evil then the Pope should spent the rest of his week excommunicating at least 30 percent of the Bishops, Cardinals and priests for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, fαɢɢօtry, pederastry, scandal, sacrilege etc.
Otherwise it looks like there is one rule for Peter and another for Pauli.
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(©Afp)(©Afp) POPE FRANCIS
Francis’ strong anti-mafia warning during the mass held at Piana di Sibari “No to the ‘ndrangheta, they adore money and have contempt for good”
GIACOMO GALEAZZI
REPORTING FROM CASSANO JONIO (CS)
“The mafia is not in communion with God, they are excommunicated”. Francesco bellows out: “The ‘ndrangheta is this: adoration of evil and contempt for the common good. This evil must be fought, distanced, we must tell them ‘no’. The Church which is so committed to educating consciences, must always expend itself even more so that good can prevail. Our young people ask this of us. Our children, in need of hope. Faith can help us meet these needs”. Even in these “moments of difficulty”, evil will not have the last word, so “do not allow them to steal you hope”, encourages the Pope. And “for this faith, we renounce Satan and all his temptations; we renounce the idols of money, vanity, pride and power”.
In Calabria, a region plagued by unemployment and organised crime, Francis bellows out a cry of hope and encourages the faithful to oppose “the evil, injustice, violence with the power of the good, the true, and the beautiful”. A tangible sign of hope is the Policoro Project, “for young people who want to get involved and create job opportunities for themselves and others. You, dear youngsters, do not let them steal your hope”. “By loving Jesus in your hearts and standing by Him you will know how to oppose evil, injustice and violence with the power of good, truth and beauty”.
The bishop of Cassano Jonio and secretary of the CEI ensured him that “the Calabrian Church is committed to awakening the public conscience to organised crime” because “crime feeds on sleeping consciences”. On the way from Cassano all’Jonio towards Marina di Sibari, where the Pope held mass in a crowded clearing, Francis made time for a brief stop outside of the parochial church of San Giuseppe, in Lattughelle, where on 3 March this year, the diocesan priest, father Lazzaro Longobardi, was murdered.
Then at the Piana di Sibari, the Pontiff presided at the Eucharist celebration, concelebrated by the bishops of Calabria and 207 priests. "On the feast of Corpus Domini, we celebrate Jesus “living bread that came down from heaven”, food for our hunger for eternal life, strength for our journey – announced Francis in the homily -. I thank the Lord, who today allows me to celebrate Corpus Domini with you, brothers and sisters of this Church, which is in Cassano allo Jonio. Today’s feast is that on which the Church praises the Lord for the gift of the Eucharist. While on Holy Thursday, we recall its institution at the Last Supper, today thanksgiving and adoration predominate. And, in fact, it is tradition on this day to have the procession with the Blessed Sacrament. To adore Jesus Eucharist and to walk with him. These are the two inseparable aspects of today’s feast, two aspects that mark the entire life of the Christian people: a people that adores God and walks with him". Pope Bergoglio, stressed that “these are the two inseparable aspects of today’s feast, two aspects that mark the entire life of the Christian people: a people that adores God and walks with him”. Infact, "we are a people who adores God. We adore God, who is love, who in Jesus Christ gave himself for us, offered himself on the cross to expiate our sins and by the power of this love he rose from death and lives in his Church".
Therefore “We have no other God than this and today we confess this with our gaze turned to Corpus Domini, to the Sacrament of the altar”. And “we, Christians, do not want to adore anything or anyone in this world except Jesus Christ, who is present in the Holy Eucharist”.
He added “perhaps we do not always realize what this means in all its depth, the consequences our profession of faith has or should have. Today we ask the Lord to enlighten us and to convert us, so that we truly adore only him and we renounce evil in all its forms”. But “our faith in the real presence of Jesus Christ, true God and true man, in the consecrated bread and wine, is authentic if we commit to follow him and to walk with him, seeking to put into practice his commandment which he gave to the disciples at the Last Supper: ‘Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another’. A people who adores God in the Eucharist is a people who walks in charity”.
So “Today, as bishop of Rome, I am here to confirm you not only in faith but also in charity, to accompany you and to encourage you in your journey with Jesus Charity. I want to express my support to the bishop, the priests and the deacons of this Church, and also of the Eparchy of Lungro, rich in its Greek-Byzantine tradition. But I extend it to all the pastors and faithful of the Church in Calabria, courageously committed to evangelization and to promoting lifestyles and initiatives which put at the centre the needs of the poor.
He extends his support also to “the civil authorities who seek to live political and administrative commitment for what it is—a service to the common good”. In fact, “thank God, there are many signs of hope in your families, parishes, associations and ecclesial movements. The Lord Jesus does not cease to inspire acts of charity in his people who journey”.
The open area of Sibari transformed as the hours passed into a sea of colours. Looking down on the crowds you could see thousands of sun parasols that coloured the various areas of the plain. The temperature in the afternoon exceed 40 degrees and volunteers from the Civil Protection department handed out more and more water to the pilgrims. The dozen fountains installed in the last few days around the perimeter of the event area were also inundated. Several ambulances waited at the edge of the crowds, ready to help anyone who felt unwell in the heat. On the plain of Sibari, every sector recorded maximum capacity as the hour of the mass held by Pope Francis drew near. The state police, Carabinieri and Guardia di Finanza were impressive as they monitored the area. Journalists from dozens of Italian and foreign news channels broadcast the event live.
Queues of traffic 10 kilometres long formed on the road from Cassano to Sibari. The cars were in long columns, waiting to access the car parks outside of the event area. Many pilgrims decided to walk along the main road to reach the plain sooner. A joyful crowd welcomed the Pope on his arrival at the Piana di Sibari, half an hour ahead of schedule. 100,000 passes were distributed, 30,000 chairs, 260 eco-toilets with 30 for the disabled, and 6 large screens were been installed for the service.
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/francesco-francis-francisco-34844/
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Sure, but if he is going to be consistent about rooting out evil then the Pope should spent the rest of his week excommunicating at least 30 percent of the Bishops, Cardinals and priests for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, fαɢɢօtry, pederastry, scandal, sacrilege etc.
Otherwise it looks like there is one rule for Peter and another for Pauli.
Let's face it. Excommunicating the Mafia is "safe". Who does it offend? How many people want to stick up for the Mafia? How does this excommunication change the Vatican II Church's agenda?
Meanwhile Francis can look all papal.
So far I haven't seen anything about this in the Traditional world, but I'm interested to see its take on it.
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Pope Francis journeyed Saturday to the heart of Italy's biggest crime syndicate (some would say that's not in Calabria, but Vatican City. What's that saying about cleaning your own house first?), met the father of a 3-year-old boy slain in the region's drug war, and declared that all mobsters are automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
For all the laughs, though, THIS is rich:
During his homily at an outdoor Mass, Francis denounced the 'ndrangheta for what he called its "adoration of evil and contempt for the common good. "
"Those who go down the evil path, as the Mafiosi do, are not in communion with God. They are excommunicated," he warned.
:roll-laugh2:
"Who am I to judge?"
So Bergoglio can judge this, but not sodomites? He LIKES the trannies, has the queeran (Koran) read in the Vatican, bows to the Jєωs, changes his words and blames others later, sews confusion, offers beach balls...
If Bergoglio truly had the power, he just excommunicated himself.
:roll-laugh2: :laugh2: :king:
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Pope Francis journeyed Saturday to the heart of Italy's biggest crime syndicate (some would say that's not in Calabria, but Vatican City. What's that saying about cleaning your own house first?), met the father of a 3-year-old boy slain in the region's drug war, and declared that all mobsters are automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
For all the laughs, though, THIS is rich:
During his homily at an outdoor Mass, Francis denounced the 'ndrangheta for what he called its "adoration of evil and contempt for the common good. "
"Those who go down the evil path, as the Mafiosi do, are not in communion with God. They are excommunicated," he warned.
:roll-laugh2:
"Who am I to judge?"
So Bergoglio can judge this, but not sodomites? He LIKES the trannies, has the queeran (Koran) read in the Vatican, bows to the Jєωs, changes his words and blames others later, sews confusion, offers beach balls...
If Bergoglio truly had the power, he just excommunicated himself.
:roll-laugh2: :laugh2: :king:
:applause: :roll-laugh1:
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I'm sure that the mafia care little about such things. Now, if you started to mess with their money, someone will get bumped off.
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Fact that anyone is in Mafia, are already excommunicated by the Church.
We do not need Pope Francis to make this pronouncement.
Everything from hired murderers, gambling, prostitution, cheating,
embezzlement, and dirty politics etc, etc. The Mafia is already out of the church..
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Mafiosos are automatically excommunicated but they do need a public reminder every once in a while. Let's face it, drug smuggling, kidnapping, murder, blackmailing, pornography, and gambling are all really wretched activities that only appeal to the possessors of rancid souls. So, the Mafiosos are automatically excommunicated by default.
Now, what Pope Francis needs to do next is announce that all who participate, and all who promote, and all who fund and all who are employed by the abortion industry are excommunicated. Think about it for a few seconds, these degenerates make their living killing babies while they are still in their mother's womb and the mother herself should be told publicly by none other than the pope himself that she is in a state of mortal sin and is spiritually dead unless she seeks absolution from a Catholic priest. This applies to pro-abortion politicians.
The pope must make this unpopular stand.
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Mafiosos are automatically excommunicated but they do need a public reminder every once in a while. Let's face it, drug smuggling, kidnapping, murder, blackmailing, pornography, and gambling are all really wretched activities that only appeal to the possessors of rancid souls. So, the Mafiosos are automatically excommunicated by default.
Now, what Pope Francis needs to do next is announce that all who participate, and all who promote, and all who fund and all who are employed by the abortion industry are excommunicated. Think about it for a few seconds, these degenerates make their living killing babies while they are still in their mother's womb and the mother herself should be told publicly by none other than the pope himself that she is in a state of mortal sin and is spiritually dead unless she seeks absolution from a Catholic priest. This applies to pro-abortion politicians.
The pope must make this unpopular stand.
Why not? By the way when he was Cardinal Bergoglio he announced that Catholic politicians who vote for abortion are excommunicated.
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Didn't Peℓσѕι get banned from receiving communion recently?
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The Vatican newspaper has denounced the gesture made by parishioners at a church in Oppido Mamertina, Italy, who detoured a religious procession to honor a convicted leader of the ‘Ndrangheta crime syndicate.
L'Osservatore Romano remarked that the "perversion of religious sentiment often accompanies criminal activity and acquiescence, dictated by fear or interest, unfortunately still widespread among the people."
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21950
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A bishop in Italy’s Calabria region has denied reports that inmates at a local prison had stopped attending Mass to protest the denunciation of organized crime by Pope Francis.
"There was a dialogue, but there was no mutiny nor was there a desire not to go to Mass," Bishop Gianfranco De Luca of Larino told Vatican Radio.
Bishop De Luca said that some inmates, who were affiliated with the “Ndrangheta crime syndicate, asked the prison chaplain to explain the implications of the statement made by Pope Francis during his trip to Calabria, saying that organized-crime figures were excommunicated
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21956
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The Vatican newspaper has denounced the gesture made by parishioners at a church in Oppido Mamertina, Italy, who detoured a religious procession to honor a convicted leader of the ‘Ndrangheta crime syndicate.
L'Osservatore Romano remarked that the "perversion of religious sentiment often accompanies criminal activity and acquiescence, dictated by fear or interest, unfortunately still widespread among the people."
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21950
The newspaper denounced them ? Whoa, now that was really harsh, that will teach them !
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I want a video of Pope Francis doing the excommunication like Richard Burton or I don't believe it.
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I want a video of Pope Francis doing the excommunication like Richard Burton or I don't believe it.
He is the pope. I take his word for it.
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I want a video of Pope Francis doing the excommunication like Richard Burton or I don't believe it.
He is the pope. I take his word for it.
This just dawned on me and thank you for it poche.
Unless the Pope mentions these criminals individually by name then his proclamation has zero meaning.
Look what has happened with the probaby killers. It is announced they are ipso facto no paper needed ex-communicated and the likes of them (like Nancy Peℓσѕι) will make the claim it does not apply to them at all.
They claim they are catholic and the church needs to grow up.
It is not like people in the mafia go around claiming to be members- so francis needs to write a docuмent naming the individuals by name who are excommunicated or this is all for show and he is a coward.
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I want a video of Pope Francis doing the excommunication like Richard Burton or I don't believe it.
He is the pope. I take his word for it.
This just dawned on me and thank you for it poche.
Unless the Pope mentions these criminals individually by name then his proclamation has zero meaning.
Look what has happened with the probaby killers. It is announced they are ipso facto no paper needed ex-communicated and the likes of them (like Nancy Peℓσѕι) will make the claim it does not apply to them at all.
They claim they are catholic and the church needs to grow up.
It is not like people in the mafia go around claiming to be members- so francis needs to write a docuмent naming the individuals by name who are excommunicated or this is all for show and he is a coward.
I'm glad to see someone say this. It was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the news but then I forgot about it. I figured I must not be looking at all the facts, and I was sure that individual names would emerge.
But you say no names have been mentioned?
If that is the case, then this is all for show and he's a coward, as you say!
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I want a video of Pope Francis doing the excommunication like Richard Burton or I don't believe it.
He is the pope. I take his word for it.
This just dawned on me and thank you for it poche.
Unless the Pope mentions these criminals individually by name then his proclamation has zero meaning.
Look what has happened with the probaby killers. It is announced they are ipso facto no paper needed ex-communicated and the likes of them (like Nancy Peℓσѕι) will make the claim it does not apply to them at all.
They claim they are catholic and the church needs to grow up.
It is not like people in the mafia go around claiming to be members- so francis needs to write a docuмent naming the individuals by name who are excommunicated or this is all for show and he is a coward.
I'm glad to see someone say this. It was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the news but then I forgot about it. I figured I must not be looking at all the facts, and I was sure that individual names would emerge.
But you say no names have been mentioned?
If that is the case, then this is all for show and he's a coward, as you say!
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That would be interersting. If he wrote a docuмent it would probably have to include the cartels and a lot of other bad people. Of course if he went around trying to name everybody's name he wouldn't be able to finish writing the docuмent. However participation in organized crime that involves a lot of going around killing innocent people would probably do. The worship of evil in whatever form seperates us from God.
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The point is, how would it be enforced? What is, for example one thing that is consequent to excommunication, in practice? How about reception of Holy Communion -- if Nancy Peℓσѕι, for instance, were excommunicated for pertinacious public denial of the evil of abortion (which would be a just excom for her), and then later, she were to show up at some Mass somewhere presenting herself for Communion, the priest distributing it could simply pass her up, and she would nave no recourse because she isn't supposed to be receiving Communion unless she abjures her error and stops denying the evil that is abortion.
Of course, with laymen distributing Communion, such a thing probably isn't going to happen. So this is somewhat hypothetical, as if the Church were still practicing common sense. It would, however, still apply to TLM chapels, where the priest alone distributes Communion.
So, now that "the mafia" has been excommunicated, what would happen if Guido Gumba were to show up at a Trad chapel trying to receive Communion? Let's say Guido Gumba is a prominent mafia member in Palermo, for example. When Guido kneels at the Communion rail, the Trad priest could simply pass him up, having recognized him. But was Guido excommunicated? Is the name Guido Gumba in the docuмent from Francis?
Since Guido is a prominent member of the mafia, it's not so difficult to see he would be passed up at the communion rail (even if sometimes the priest might make a mistake and give Guido a host especially if Guido comes to Mass wearing a disguise that conceals his identity). But what about Guido's secretary, Giuseppe Parmigiano? Given that Giuseppe's name is not on the list (nor is Guido's or anyone else's apparently), and he is not a renown mafia member, how would the priest know to not give him Communion? But Giuseppe practices every day obedience and service to the mafia, helping to make it work the way it does, and Giuseppe does not offer any resistance to the evils that the mafia practices. Does the so-called excommunication of the mafia extend to people like Giuseppe Parmigiano?
What about mafia hit-men? They're not named in the Francis-papers. But without them the mafia wouldn't be effective, since their services are essential to the mafia and what it does. Should the priest distributing Communion pass up a communicant presenting himself at the Communion rail because the priest thinks that MAYBE this is the guy that he had seen among a group of 3 men walking down the sidewalk the other day visiting merchants in town who had not paid the mafia for their "protection?" What if the priest is mistaken? What if this guy who somehow resembles a mafia hit-man is really a tourist from Venice who just LOOKS LIKE one of the mafia hit-men in Palermo?
When my friend told me with excitement about this action of Pope Francis in the news, I asked him about how the enforcement would be applied, my friend told me that it doesn't matter how it's enforced, and that the important thing is that this announcement was made, that the mafia is excommunicated. Then I replied to him, that if there is no enforcement, then this is just a news media story with no practical consequence, since nothing will ever come of it. My friend said he didn't agree, but he had no proposal that offered any alternative consequence to this announcement. Nor was he willing to accept that this non-consequential announcement is just a hype story.
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When my friend told me with excitement about this action of Pope Francis in the news, I asked him about how the enforcement would be applied, my friend told me that it doesn't matter how it's enforced, and that the important thing is that this announcement was made, that the mafia is excommunicated.
In regards to abortion, 50 000 000 dead babies could not disagree with your friend more.
The governor of Nevada, Sandoval, attends daily mass every morning and on his web page for years it has stated he is prochoice. There are thousands of other politicians like him, dozens of organizations claiming to be Catholic prochoice organizations on the internet.
“The penalty of excommunication for abortion extends to the mother, all medical personnel, anyone who offers the mother moral or financial support to abort, as well as those who publicly campaign for legalized abortion. Incidentally, no formal notification of such excommunication is necessary, as it takes effect as soon as the action is performed.” p. 77 The Catholic Answer Book vol 1, Rev. Peter M.J. Stravinskas PH.D S.T.D.
Congregation for the Doctorine of Faith: Declaration on Abortion
National Congress of Catholic Bishops: “No Catholic can responsibly take ‘a pro-choice’ stand when the ‘choice’ in question involves the taking of innocent human life”.
None of that means anything to the "prochoice Catholic". There are no consequences when the Church has no spine. Jesus tells us how to admonish the sinner and then kick them out but the Church turns a blind eye to baby murder.
How about Pope Francis do what St Paul and Jesus told us to do instead of making a silly political comment about a secretive organized crime family while out in the open tens of thousands openly kill babies every single day ? How about the open and militant so called pro gαy Catholic lobby ?
Pope francis is a coward.
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The point is, how would it be enforced? What is, for example one thing that is consequent to excommunication, in practice? How about reception of Holy Communion -- if Nancy Peℓσѕι, for instance, were excommunicated for pertinacious public denial of the evil of abortion (which would be a just excom for her), and then later, she were to show up at some Mass somewhere presenting herself for Communion, the priest distributing it could simply pass her up, and she would nave no recourse because she isn't supposed to be receiving Communion unless she abjures her error and stops denying the evil that is abortion.
Of course, with laymen distributing Communion, such a thing probably isn't going to happen. So this is somewhat hypothetical, as if the Church were still practicing common sense. It would, however, still apply to TLM chapels, where the priest alone distributes Communion.
So, now that "the mafia" has been excommunicated, what would happen if Guido Gumba were to show up at a Trad chapel trying to receive Communion? Let's say Guido Gumba is a prominent mafia member in Palermo, for example. When Guido kneels at the Communion rail, the Trad priest could simply pass him up, having recognized him. But was Guido excommunicated? Is the name Guido Gumba in the docuмent from Francis?
Since Guido is a prominent member of the mafia, it's not so difficult to see he would be passed up at the communion rail (even if sometimes the priest might make a mistake and give Guido a host especially if Guido comes to Mass wearing a disguise that conceals his identity). But what about Guido's secretary, Giuseppe Parmigiano? Given that Giuseppe's name is not on the list (nor is Guido's or anyone else's apparently), and he is not a renown mafia member, how would the priest know to not give him Communion? But Giuseppe practices every day obedience and service to the mafia, helping to make it work the way it does, and Giuseppe does not offer any resistance to the evils that the mafia practices. Does the so-called excommunication of the mafia extend to people like Giuseppe Parmigiano?
What about mafia hit-men? They're not named in the Francis-papers. But without them the mafia wouldn't be effective, since their services are essential to the mafia and what it does. Should the priest distributing Communion pass up a communicant presenting himself at the Communion rail because the priest thinks that MAYBE this is the guy that he had seen among a group of 3 men walking down the sidewalk the other day visiting merchants in town who had not paid the mafia for their "protection?" What if the priest is mistaken? What if this guy who somehow resembles a mafia hit-man is really a tourist from Venice who just LOOKS LIKE one of the mafia hit-men in Palermo?
When my friend told me with excitement about this action of Pope Francis in the news, I asked him about how the enforcement would be applied, my friend told me that it doesn't matter how it's enforced, and that the important thing is that this announcement was made, that the mafia is excommunicated. Then I replied to him, that if there is no enforcement, then this is just a news media story with no practical consequence, since nothing will ever come of it. My friend said he didn't agree, but he had no proposal that offered any alternative consequence to this announcement. Nor was he willing to accept that this non-consequential announcement is just a hype story.
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It could be the same as for abortion. The sentene for a procured abortion is excommunication latae sententiae, that is automatic.