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Predestination Those That Die Unbaptized
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 03:24:12 PM »

4. Reflexively, we react by saying: But what about the rest? How is it just of God to choose some and to reject others? There can be but one answer to such a question, though admittedly it does not satisfy us, for it is not fully comprehensible, not, that is, as comprehensible as we would like. The answer is that those have been chosen, who were foreknown to accept their election. If others are rejected, it is because quite freely they reject the grace which would be for their peace. - Fr. Wathen


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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 12:18:06 PM »


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4. Reflexively, we react by saying: But what about the rest? How is it just of God to choose some and to reject others? There can be but one answer to such a question, though admittedly it does not satisfy us, for it is not fully comprehensible, not, that is, as comprehensible as we would like. The answer is that those have been chosen, who were foreknown to accept their election. If others are rejected, it is because quite freely they reject the grace which would be for their peace. - Fr. Wathen



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Before all decision to create the world, the infinite knowledge of God presents to Him all the graces, and different series of graces, which He can prepare for each soul, along with the consent or refusal which would follow in each circuмstance, and that in millions of possible combinations ... Thus, for each man in particular there are in the thought of God, limitless possible histories, some histories of virtue and salvation, others of crime and damnation; and God will be free in choosing such a world, such a series of graces, and in determining the future history and final destiny of each soul. And this is precisely what He does when among all possible worlds, by an absolutely free act, he decides to realize the actual world with all the circuмstances of its historic evolutions, with all the graces which in fact have been and will be distributed until the end of the world, and consequently with all the elect and all the reprobate who God foresaw would be in it if de facto He created it." [The Catholic Encyclopedia Appleton, 1909, on Augustine, pg 97]

God has already tested every man, in everyway, before they were even born into the place they were born. No one lives in a place "by accident", no one can claim that they died by accident, without a chance.


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