Formal heretic doesn't mean "actual heretic", "provable heretic", "heretic in reality", "heretic based on provable facts and air-tight logic" or any of those things. It is exclusively when the Church FORMALLY declares someone to be a heretic.
That's the problem.

Exactly.  Formal heretic is a canon law term, by way of a legal process.  As much as we all want such legal process to happen, until it does, we laymen can do nothing about it.  The Church is not a democracy.  Yelling and screaming doesn't change a thing.  Only prayer can make changes.
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...and at this point, it's better to pray for a +Francis death and the election of a holy pope, than to worry about a +Francis deposition.

Perhaps it is overdue for a prayer crusade…

History records the account of St. Athanasius' prayers concerning Arius.  The below is taken from one account of same seen at https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/why-did-arius-die-such-a-death-12255

Having but eight days left, the distraught patriarch from an urge of hope within him knew what to do. He started a campaign of prayer in the cathedral. Day after day he and his parishioners prayed together there, day after day they fasted in their homes, in their appeal to a higher court. On the day before the dreaded date, at three in the afternoon the patriarch threw himself prostate on the sanctuary floor to offer his Eucharistic Lord a final petition. The attendants around saintly old Alexander heard his words distinctly.

This in brief and in essence was the petition: "Jesus my Savior and my God, if Arius communicates here tomorrow, first take your servant out of the world, I implore. But if you care for your Church, as I know you do, take Arius away."3

On that same Saturday, in the evening, Arius with a noisy following came marching through the streets of Constantinople, all of them defiantly merry in anticipation of his forced entrance to the cathedral sanctuary tomorrow, the Lord's day. They held a rally at Constantine Square, where of a sudden Arius felt ill, excused himself and went off alone. The others, suspecting nothing serious, took for granted he would soon return. He did not.

They found his body lying dead, its underbelly split open and the entrails scattered about. The body lay unattended on the ground floor of a building. The building became a metropolitan curiosity, Socrates relates. Passersby would point to it and lower their voices to speak awesomely of the death. Perhaps they were remembering that another, whom no knife touched, "burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out" (Acts 1:18).


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It is extremely manifest when the new oder mess is the mass of the robber church.  You can't get more manifest than that.  Actions speak louder than words.
Nothing can be worse than taking our Lords Precious Blood and throwing it back in His Face!  

Come now, Clemens Maria.  Bergoglio has already participated in the formal worship of a pagan idol in the Vatican and then enshrined that idol (or another one) in a Catholic Church in Rome.  If that doesn't do it, even if Bergoglio were to sacrifice a child on live television, people on this forum would say, "Well...We've had bad popes before!"

And:  

“He’s just a bad Dad”.

OR

“Pray for the Holy Father!, He suffers so much”.

Cardinal Muller joins the party: https://www.infocatolica.com/?t=opinion&cod=38933 



Cardinal Gerhard Müller - 10/23/20 12:03 PM

I don't know the exact wording of the ambiguous interview statement. But the effect is fatal.

The Catholic faithful are irritated, the enemies of the Church feel confirmed by the Vicar of our Lord Jesus Christ, whose filiation in God they reject. Instead of using theological and philosophical arguments of reason, they appeal to feelings, thus proving the rationality of faith with sentimentalism.

But faith does not depend on a political option in the spectrum of right or left or on an ideological position between conservatism or progressivism, but only on the truth that God himself is in his essence and in the word of his historical revelation.

The Christian believes in God as the first truth and recognizes the Pope and the bishops as the successors of Peter and the other apostles.

Loyalty to the Pope is something different from idolatrous papolatry, similar to the principle according to which the leader or party is always right.

When tensions arise between the obvious Word of God and the infallible interpretation on the one hand and the private expressions of opinion even of the highest ecclesiastical authorities', the principle always applies: in dubio pro DEO.

The Magisterium serves the Word of God and is never above Revelation. That is, in any case, the valid teaching of the Church on the relationship of God's revelation in Christ to the teaching authority subordinate to it.

The present statement is a purely private expression of opinion, which every Catholic can and should freely contradict.

John Henry Newman (1801-1890), the famous cardinal and one of the greatest teachers of the Church in modern times, has said that even worse than financial corruption in Church organizations and moral corruption of clergy and lay leaders is corruption in matters of revealed doctrine. This was and is the source of all the abuses and scandals in the history of the church.

What is ecclesiastical openness or the freedom of a Christian man? Between the Pope and the bishops, especially the cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, there exists the same analogous relationship as between Peter and the other apostles. Paul confronted Peter because he had deviated from the "truth of the Gospel" (Galatians 2:14) through ambiguous behavior and speech. Hieronymus, Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, in their interpretation of the Letter to the Galatians, side with Paul as to its content and praise Peter for his humility in allowing himself to be rebuked by him.

In the Catholic Church - with reference to the complementarity of the sexes, marriage and the family - the Word of God is valid in its definitive interpretation in the person and mission of Christ his Son, in relation to the Pharisees and then and now: "Have you not heard that the Creator created them male and female in the beginning? Therefore shall a man leave father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. ( Matthew 19:4 ).

There is no right to marriage and family unless a man and a woman, according to their nature created by God, freely say to each other in conscience and in the eyes of God: Only you and forever - until death do us part. Outside of legitimate marriage, according to God's will, every sɛҳuąƖ union is objectively a grave sin, regardless of the subjective guilt that only God knows and to whose forgiveness we can entrust ourselves always and at all times.

But we must not sin frivolously because of God's mercy, and instead of allowing ourselves to be justified by his merciful judgment, we must not see ourselves confirmed in a sinful act by the applause of de-Christianized contemporaries.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church makes a clear distinction between pastoral care and personal attention to persons with same-sex tendencies and the objective evaluation of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or even heterosɛҳuąƖ acts outside of marriage that are contrary to God's command. "He who says he abides in him must also lead a life as he has led it. (1 John 2:6).

Keeping God's commandments is an expression of love for Him and recognition of their healing effect on man. Instead of meeting people who feel confirmed by him in their wrong attitude and thinking and who show themselves to the world with an image of the Pope, the Pope should study the book of Daniel Mattson and invite him into a conversation. He is an American who has found his way out of the unworthiness of sɛҳuąƖ promiscuity into a life of abstinence in "the freedom and glory of the children of God" (Romans 8:21).

+ Gerhard Müller, Cardinal Prefect emeritus of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

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