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Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2020, 07:30:02 PM »
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  • He also is for gay children when all children are to be virgins. The next step is to legalize adult sex with children so the pedophiles  can avoid prison and losing their precious money.
    What does this sentence mean?

    To tell the truth, when I got this news today, I had a sede vacante moment.  But, as I have done so many times before, I talked myself out of it.  "He was speaking as a private theologian"... "this does not constitute Church teaching"... "he is only advocating civil unions, not the sodomy that goes on in those households"... and so on.

    Never in a thousand million years would any pope prior to John XXIII have spoken so recklessly.  Does not the man realize the only thing the world is going to hear is --- "the Catholic Church is okay with gay people living together as committed couples".

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #31 on: October 21, 2020, 07:37:55 PM »
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  • What does this sentence mean?

    To tell the truth, when I got this news today, I had a sede vacante moment.  But, as I have done so many times before, I talked myself out of it.  "He was speaking as a private theologian"... "this does not constitute Church teaching"... "he is only advocating civil unions, not the sodomy that goes on in those households"... and so on.

    Never in a thousand million years would any pope prior to John XXIII have spoken so recklessly.  Does not the man realize the only thing the world is going to hear is --- "the Catholic Church is okay with gay people living together as committed couples".

    Even if a pope is only teaching as a private theologian, he cannot be a heretic.  If he is a manifest heretic, he is not a member of the Catholic Church and therefore he is not the pope, period.

    It's getting comical now.  It's a game.  How bad can it get before you finally realize he isn't Catholic?  Does he have to sacrifice a child on live television?  What does it take?


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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #32 on: October 21, 2020, 07:44:43 PM »
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  • Even if a pope is only teaching as a private theologian, he cannot be a heretic.  If he is a manifest heretic, he is not a member of the Catholic Church and therefore he is not the pope, period.

    It's getting comical now.  It's a game.  How bad can it get before you finally realize he isn't Catholic?  Does he have to sacrifice a child on live television?  What does it take?
    I think a lot of people think he is a heretic, but that he has to be judged so by the Church. Not that it will ever happen, but there has to be a process. Either God will never allow a Pope to be a heretic, or if it happens, something has to be done about it by the Church. If you think he is not the pope, then PRODUCE A POPE. Elect one, or recognize one of the dozen or so who have been elected by other sedes, and no matter what course has been decided on, get off your high horse.

    The Church is supposed to be a monarchy with a distinct hierarchy. The sedes have none of that. They have an invisible Church with a few dozen priests, independent, scattered, with no hierarchy, like protestantism. Support Pope Michael.
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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #33 on: October 21, 2020, 07:54:27 PM »
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  • I think a lot of people think he is a heretic, but that he has to be judged so by the Church. Not that it will ever happen, but there has to be a process. Either God will never allow a Pope to be a heretic, or if it happens, something has to be done about it by the Church. If you think he is not the pope, then PRODUCE A POPE. Elect one, or recognize one of the dozen or so who have been elected by other sedes, and no matter what course has been decided on, get off your high horse.

    God already said that He will never allow a Pope to be a heretic when he founded His Church on St. Peter and declared that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.  And again when he prayed that St. Peter's faith will not fail.  St Robert Bellarmine confirms this and even stated that his own position was that God would never allow a pope to FALL FROM THE FAITH.  I also believe that is the case.  None of the V2 popes (J23 and beyond) were elected legitimately.  So they were never for one moment true popes.  And no true pope has ever fallen from the faith.  St Robert refuted those who claimed that Liberius and Honorius had fallen into heresy.  George Bergoglio isn't even a priest, never mind a pope.

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #34 on: October 21, 2020, 07:56:06 PM »
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  • The claim that there is no hierarchy is false.  Bishops and priests without jurisdiction are still members of the hierarchy.


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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #35 on: October 21, 2020, 08:05:09 PM »
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  • None of the V2 popes (J23 and beyond) were elected legitimately.  So they were never for one moment true popes.  And no true pope has ever fallen from the faith.
    We have no substantial records of any of the popes before the nineteenth century so your statement that no true pope had ever fallen from the faith is just something you want to believe. How was John XXIII not elected legitimately? He was accepted by the whole Church. There were not any sedes until Paul VI. Are you a Siri thesis trad?

    All the sede priests and bishops are mere laymen with orders. They have no more authority than I would if I got myself ordained and consecrated by Ambrose Moran. 
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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #36 on: October 21, 2020, 08:09:56 PM »
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  •  The Church does not change.  The Faith does not change. 
    The reason the Church and Faith can never be substantially altered as Christ founded it is because of the divine promises given to the Pope. 

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    Pius XII, Mystici Corporis

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #37 on: October 21, 2020, 08:11:16 PM »
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  • Never in a thousand million years would any pope prior to John XXIII have spoken so recklessly.  Does not the man realize the only thing the world is going to hear is --- "the Catholic Church is okay with gay people living together as committed couples".
    Yes, of course he realizes it.  That’s exactly what he and his rainbow buddies want.  Why would he say the things he does, allow the foulest of sacrileges on the the altar, fail to punish evil-doers, and persecute the few who dare to speak out?  
    We must get it through our skulls that Francis is our enemy.  Pope or not, he speaks and acts as Satan, not as Our Lord.  


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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #38 on: October 21, 2020, 08:12:45 PM »
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  •  Does he have to sacrifice a child on live television?  What does it take?
    Did he sacrifice that child ex cathedra?

    Doesn’t count.

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #39 on: October 21, 2020, 08:43:04 PM »
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  • Did he sacrifice that child ex cathedra?

    Doesn’t count.
    OK I loled

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #40 on: October 22, 2020, 04:03:59 AM »
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  • In the final analysis, numerically speaking, no Catholic cares what Bergolio of any pope says anymore, for 99% of Catholics do not live the faith, they are just cultural Catholics, Catholics in name only. I look at the "serious" Catholics, at my SSPX Chapel that represent the 1% of "serious" Catholics, and I see that maybe about 10% of them live the faith, if that much. The real traditionalists in my chapel are dead now, or have left and gone sedevacantes.  
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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #41 on: October 22, 2020, 05:06:02 AM »
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  • Pope faggot.

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #42 on: October 22, 2020, 05:11:10 AM »
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  • With everything going on in the world today, with the fake virus causing a worldwide depression, massive starvation, civil unrest, a global godless commie takeover, war, disease and famine....you can see we are obviously under judgement and the possible beginning of chastisement. So what does pope faggot do?

    He doubles down on faggotry.

    A real faggot at heart.

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #43 on: October 22, 2020, 05:24:38 AM »
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  • I don’t see how his being pope or not, impacts the damage he is doing.  Those who follow his heretical teachings, are not Catholic.  Anything he teaches that is against the Faith, is not binding.  So the damage he is doing, ends up being the same, whether he holds the Keys or not.  He certainly is confusing a lot of people, but how does his being pope or not, change the amount that he confuses?  The Church does not change.  The Faith does not change.  The illusion of change that he creates, vanishes into nothing, as he has no authority to change the Faith, whether he was validly elected or not.
    The whole world, with the exception of a very few faithful, do not believe this. The false teachings of some theologians from the last few centuries have convinced nearly the whole Catholic world that it is a teaching of the Church that the pope is always infallible. Today, most people maintain that idea and escalate it to mean that the pope is supposedly something almost celestial, something more than a man who is incapable of ever doing what all men are capable of doing.

    So this abomination merely adds fuel to the fire in that it gives the queers and their sympathizers a major moral authority they can point to, now they can say that even the pope approves of their abomination.

    As a child I was told many times things will get worse before they get better, I am quite sure that back then, no one would have ever thought we'd see this.......and I still believe things will get even worse before they get better.  

    This is all happening for our purification, we are expected to maintain the faith through this - as well as whatever else is to come.
    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Pope Francis calls for civil union laws for same-sex couples
    « Reply #44 on: October 22, 2020, 05:27:48 AM »
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  • So apparently pope faggot is in direct conflict with Catholic teaching on faggotry. The Church teaches that faggotry is sin and if indeed fags are intrinsically disordered they're supposed to be chaste. But not pope faggot, he wants them to "marry" (ie civil union), so as to really set them up and tempt them into perpetual mortal sin, which apparently  pope faggot doesn't PERSONALLY believe is a SIN at all. See, none of the doctrines or dogma or magesterium Church teaching matters at all, not even the saints or the Church Fathers, they're ALL intolerant, uneducated idiots, it's what pope fag FEELS that day.Nothing else matters, not the church, not the bible, heck, not even Our Lord Himself....Just pope fag while he dotes about fagging quite faggily. and he's quite good at it. He's had a lot of practice.


    So what are we to do? We're stuck with a fag in the vatican, one who openly gives the finger to God.

    I'm waiting for that whole " Gates of hell shall not prevail" thing.


     

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