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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: poche on October 23, 2017, 03:37:25 AM

Title: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 23, 2017, 03:37:25 AM
In a preface to a new book of interviews, Pope Francis outlined his approach to speaking with journalists, explaining that he thinks interviews should be like a conversation and this is why he doesn’t prepare answers in advance.
“For me interviews are a dialogue, not a lesson,” the Pope wrote.
“I do not prepare for this,” he said, stating that he usually declines to read the questions when they are sent in advance, instead opting to answer organically, as he would in an actual conversation.
“Yes, I am still afraid of being interpreted badly,” he clarified, while adding that as a pastor, it’s a risk he’s willing to take.
“Everything that I do has pastoral value, in one way or in another,” he said. “If I did not trust this, I would not allow interviews: for me it is clear. It's a manner of communicating my ministry.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-on-why-he-gives-interviews-36223 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-on-why-he-gives-interviews-36223)
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: Maria Regina on October 23, 2017, 03:47:41 AM
Francis likes to "wing" it. Open mouth; insert foot.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 23, 2017, 05:02:01 AM
Francis likes to "wing" it. Open mouth; insert foot.
... preferably someone else's. *blech*
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: MyrnaM on October 23, 2017, 08:50:45 AM


Francis the talking NOPE.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 23, 2017, 01:41:39 PM
Do you consider him to be a Pope?
Oh he surely does, and with a vengeance; however, he's at least less inconsistent and incoherent that the "cardboard pope" crowd.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 23, 2017, 10:41:07 PM
Do you consider him to be a Pope?
He is the Pope.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 23, 2017, 11:01:42 PM
I smell saucy goose...
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 27, 2017, 05:08:29 AM
I am almost afraid to ask.  'Poche' can you please define what a Pope is?  What are the duties of a Pope, relating to the Deposit of Faith of the Catholic church?  I'm cringing in anticipation as to what will be said.   :confused:
I think that Matthew explained it very well when he said that the Pope is the visible head of the Catholic Church.  
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: JPaul on October 27, 2017, 09:24:12 AM
I think that Matthew explained it very well when he said that the Pope is the visible head of the Catholic Church.  
That is true for those who hold that the Conciliar entity is the Catholic Church. It is left to a future time to determine if he was a pope indeed,  when the Church has been unbound from the evil which holds back Her hand of Justice.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: MyrnaM on October 27, 2017, 09:41:52 AM


In the times we live in, Jesus Christ who always was and will be the Head of His Church, and knowing that He is the same yesterday, today and forever should tell us that we must rely on His True Vicars, defend their words.  This is not the time to compromise and give the Sacred Title of Pope to His enemy.  What kind of logic is that!

Does anyone here not believe the Catholic Church is a Divine Institution, not some man-made institution as ... say ... the Boy Scouts? 

God allowed this to happen and what God ALLOWS is good, why in this case can it be good?

Because when the time is most perfect He will allow as was alluded to above, Our Lady will indeed reign and the entire world will see Her shine because God will bring such good out of this evil.  The devil will be crushed again, by the Mother of God, His Holy Mother.  Even the Jєωs will convert as prophesied.  My humble opinion of course. 

  
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 27, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
I think that Matthew explained it very well when he said that the Pope is the visible head of the Catholic Church.  
1. That ain't Matthew
2. What does that explain?
 1. How?
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 27, 2017, 01:30:29 PM
God allowed this to happen and what God ALLOWS is good,...
Might want to chew that one over a bit more ma'am; simplicity is a virtue, but being simplistic is not.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: MyrnaM on October 27, 2017, 03:50:35 PM
Might want to chew that one over a bit more ma'am; simplicity is a virtue, but being simplistic is not.
My thinking was since God allowed this evil, His allowing it is good because He will indeed make something so great resulting from the evil.  So very great because the evil is so very evil, this is my point in saying what I said, hopefully, I made myself clear this time.  
In other words, He is allowing this evil so when He does make lemonade out of the lemon it will be so sweet that no one will resist it and they will see at last the power of God and His love for His Mother.  That will be when the Church will rise again and have total respect from the world.  Otherwise, He would never have permitted this crisis in the first place.  
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 27, 2017, 10:44:30 PM
1. That ain't Matthew
2. What does that explain?
 1. How?
That was Matthew in his original rules of the forum. He stated clearly that the Church was founded by Christ. There is a visible head of the Catholic Church who is the Pope in Rome. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 27, 2017, 10:55:01 PM
That was Matthew in his original rules of the forum. He stated clearly that the Church was founded by Christ. There is a visible head of the Catholic Church who is the Pope in Rome.
Never mind; more fool me for asking.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: MyrnaM on October 28, 2017, 10:49:31 AM
That was Matthew in his original rules of the forum. He stated clearly that the Church was founded by Christ. There is a visible head of the Catholic Church who is the Pope in Rome.
That statement is true, the Pope is the visible head of the Catholic Church, I just pray we soon will have one.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 28, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
That statement is true, the Pope is the visible head of the Catholic Church, I just pray we soon will have one.
I pray for the Pope also. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 28, 2017, 10:50:26 PM
I pray for the Pope also.
I think that a reread is in order dude.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 28, 2017, 11:30:39 PM
I am almost afraid to ask.  'Poche' can you please define what a Pope is?  What are the duties of a Pope, relating to the Deposit of Faith of the Catholic church?  I'm cringing in anticipation as to what will be said.   :confused:
From the Baltimore Catechism;
Q. 496. Who is the visible Head of the Church?
A. Our Holy Father the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, is the Vicar of Christ on earth and the visible Head of the Church.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/catechism/baltimore-catechism/lesson-11-on-the-church
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 28, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
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Poche, the function of the office of the Papacy, the pope, concerning the Deposit of Faith, it is to preserve, protect and defend the Catholic Faith, not destroy it, like all of the antipopes, of the vatican II sect, have done.
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Learn the Catholic Faith.
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“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

― George Orwell (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell), 1984 (https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313)


That's just it though, for these sorts will that the Faith be what they will it to be. That's a big part of why people who join, join, and those that stay, stay.

The Poches of  the world are serving their cause, like "1984"; they will keep telling all, including themselves, the big lie until none remember what the truth was.

It's a subject that I never see broached seriously; example:What kind of man opts to be a priest in that pit? Can any honestly say, this late in the day, that they don't know damned well what it is they're getting into? Granted as with anything else, there is knowing from the outside, and knowing by experience but, you see what I'm saying?

I received the grace to convert, through reading about the historic faith; that served me very well because it didn't take long to see that the N.O. is little more than systematized sacrilege and blasphemy, a "Roman Rite Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ" if you will.

In a word, Satanism.

Call it what you like, but it isn't Catholicism.

People that stay have what they want, end of the day; else they'd leave. They may piss and moan about "this and that", but actions speak.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: GottmitunsAlex on October 28, 2017, 11:35:13 PM
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

― George Orwell (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell), 1984 (https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313)


That's just it though, for these sorts will that the Faith be what they will it to be. That's a big part of why people who join, join, and those that stay, stay.

The Poches of  the world are serving their cause, like "1984"; they will keep telling all, including themselves, the big lie until none remember what the truth was.

It's a subject that I never see broached seriously; example:What kind of man opts to be a priest in that pit? Can any honestly say, this late in the day, that they don't know damned well what it is they're getting into? Granted as with anything else, there is knowing from the outside, and knowing by experience but, you see what I'm saying?

I received the grace to convert, through reading about the historic faith; that served me very well because it didn't take long to see that the N.O. is little more than systematized sacrilege and blasphemy, a "Roman Rite Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ" if you will.

In a word, Satanism.

Call it what you like, but it isn't Catholicism.

People that stay have what they want, end of the day; else they'd leave. They may piss and moan about "this and that", but actions speak.
This
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 29, 2017, 01:47:18 AM
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

― George Orwell (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell), 1984 (https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313)


That's just it though, for these sorts will that the Faith be what they will it to be. That's a big part of why people who join, join, and those that stay, stay.

The Poches of  the world are serving their cause, like "1984"; they will keep telling all, including themselves, the big lie until none remember what the truth was.

It's a subject that I never see broached seriously; example:What kind of man opts to be a priest in that pit? Can any honestly say, this late in the day, that they don't know damned well what it is they're getting into? Granted as with anything else, there is knowing from the outside, and knowing by experience but, you see what I'm saying?

I received the grace to convert, through reading about the historic faith; that served me very well because it didn't take long to see that the N.O. is little more than systematized sacrilege and blasphemy, a "Roman Rite Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ" if you will.

In a word, Satanism.

Call it what you like, but it isn't Catholicism.

People that stay have what they want, end of the day; else they'd leave. They may piss and moan about "this and that", but actions speak.
I got my sources for what I said from the Baltimore Catechism and from Matthew. Neither one of them is Satan.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 29, 2017, 02:33:37 AM
I got my sources for what I said from the Baltimore Catechism and from Matthew. Neither one of them is Satan.
... and Arius was renowned for piety. People say all sorts of things but, to put it in no uncertain terms, "So what?"
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 29, 2017, 02:53:17 AM
I got my sources for what I said from the Baltimore Catechism and from Matthew. Neither one of them is Satan.
So, what's wrong with JP2's "Catechism"?
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 29, 2017, 10:38:34 PM
So, what's wrong with JP2's "Catechism"?
Is that something that you are recommending?
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 29, 2017, 10:42:25 PM
Is that something that you are recommending?
You are of the lie, that you do not answer the simplest, most direct questions.

It's pathology; you're driven to it, and every time that you do it, you show more clearly what you really are.

So keep playing games liar, and see what it gets you.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: poche on October 29, 2017, 10:51:44 PM
You are of the lie, that you do not answer the simplest, most direct questions.

It's pathology; you're driven to it, and every time that you do it, you show more clearly what you really are.

So keep playing games liar, and see what it gets you.
You yourself did not answer my question either.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: DZ PLEASE on October 29, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
You yourself did not answer my question either.
Prime example, right there.
Title: Re: Pope Francis
Post by: Chesterlab2003 on November 03, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Perhaps God is allowing this man to be pope as a chastisement if the Church.