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Offline Merry

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Re: Did Cardinal Siri say the New Mass?
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2019, 05:42:14 PM »
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  • Incredulous, there is a quote from a progressive seminarian who was under Siri, and he says Siri told these seminarians to not ever say the New Mass in his diocese.  If such came to pass, would we not have heard - as in Campos?  
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"


    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Did Cardinal Siri say the New Mass?
    « Reply #16 on: September 25, 2019, 11:06:43 PM »
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  • "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Did Cardinal Siri say the New Mass?
    « Reply #17 on: September 25, 2019, 11:47:04 PM »
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  • I believe it is highly likely that Cardinal Siri was elected initially, then made to stand down, then made to acknowledge the VII Popes and Mass. Most of the issues lay with the desire to pin an entire alternate Papacy on this man, when his own public actions do not allow for it. I think he is a very honorable figure, don't get me wrong. There is just too much of an urge to create something out of nothing. The Siri Thesis, similar to the Benedict Option, creates Popes so unimaginably subservient to the point of betrayal that the very impetus for their existence is destroyed, given everything we know now, a posteriori. We are all under siege and there is no easy out. All I know, hope and pray for is the promised top-down solution.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Did Cardinal Siri say the New Mass?
    « Reply #18 on: September 26, 2019, 04:40:33 PM »
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  • Cardinal Siri (Pope Gregory XVII) was under constant threats and intimidation for 30 years by the freemasons.  He was forced to do what they told him to do.  St. Thomas Aquinas said "in order to constitute a genuine act of the will the act must be performed spontaneously [freely] without constraint or force (and that) man can be coerced or forced to do something against his will in two ways: by violence and by fear (VI. 4, 5,6). That which is done under exterior violence is wholly involuntary (VI. 5).



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    Re: Did Cardinal Siri say the New Mass?
    « Reply #19 on: September 26, 2019, 05:26:43 PM »
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  • Cardinal Siri (Pope Gregory XVII) was under constant threats and intimidation for 30 years by the freemasons.  He was forced to do what they told him to do.  St. Thomas Aquinas said "in order to constitute a genuine act of the will the act must be performed spontaneously [freely] without constraint or force (and that) man can be coerced or forced to do something against his will in two ways: by violence and by fear (VI. 4, 5,6). That which is done under exterior violence is wholly involuntary (VI. 5).
    Reminds me of the Bennyvacantists and his so-called invalid resignation.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)