Author Topic: Pope declares 2012 "Year of Faith" (Read 1826 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **on:** October 16, 2011, 03:48:13 PM »

Pope: The Year of Faith in the footsteps of John Paul II and Paul VI

The apostolic letter that explains rationale, objectives and guidelines of the Year of Faith is ready, and will be published in the coming days, after nearly 50 years since the Second Vatican Council. As for the Polish pope, the new evangelization and mission ad gentes go together, and are "aspects of the mission of the Church." Paul VI proclaimed a "Year of Faith" in 1967.

Vatican City (AsiaNews) - The Year of Faith, which Benedict XVI announced at Mass this morning, arises in the footsteps of John Paul II and Paul VI. Speaking to tens of thousands of faithful gathered in St. Peter's Square for the Angelus, the pontiff reiterated his decision to hold a "Year of Faith" from "the October 11, 2012, the 50th anniversary of the Opening of the Second Vatican Council" up to "24 November 2013, Solemnity of Christ the King. "

Recalling the just concluded conference on the New Evangelization, Benedict XVI explained that "already the Blessed John Paul II had clearly indicated to the Church it was an urgent and exciting challenge. He, in the wake of Vatican II was the one who started its implementation - Pope Paul VI - was in fact, both a staunch supporter of the mission ad gentes, to the peoples and territories where the Gospel had not yet taken root, and a herald of the new evangelization. "

New evangelization and mission ad gentes go together, "They are - he said - aspects of the mission of the Church, and therefore it is significant to consider them together in this month of October, characterized by the celebration of World Mission, next Sunday."

The pontiff also said that "the motives, purposes and guidelines of this 'Year', I have illustraded in an Apostolic Letter which will be published in the coming days."

He added: "The Servant of God Paul VI proclaimed a similar 'Year of Faith' in 1967, during the nineteenth centenary of the martyrdom of the Apostles Peter and Paul, and in a time of great cultural upheaval. I think that, after half a century since the opening of the Council, linked to the happy memory of Blessed John XXIII, it is appropriate to recall the beauty and the centrality of faith, the need to strengthen and deepen it on a personal and community level, and to do so not in a celebratory perspective, but rather a missionary one, the mission ad gentes and new evangelization. "

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2011, 04:56:45 PM »

Year of Faith? In what?

Shouldn't this year, along with the preceeding 45, be called "The Year of Apostasy?" Who are they trying to kid. Faith is DEAD or dying in formerly Catholic lands. They can keep proclaiming the year of "whatever" until the cows come home and it won't change a thing until they start fixing the root causes of the crisis. How can we have a "Year of Faith" when 90% of "Catholic" Bishops and priests don't even HAVE the Faith? Not to mention the laity. It simply boggles my mind how thinking individuals can be so completely and utterly blinded by their own intellectual errors. They believe in the revolution as a DOGMA that cannot be wrong and so look for the problems in some place OTHER than VCII and the New Mass and all that followed. They look everywhere except the one place they can find the answer. They are completely lost.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2011, 04:58:47 PM »

Is it me or has the Pope become more and more completely disassociated from reality? How could the leader of the Catholic world sit and write fluffy sentiments in letter after letter and address after address while the Church crumbles all around him? It truly boggles the mind. I honestly think he has lost touch with reality.

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2011, 05:00:01 PM »

The year of WHAT Faith is more the question? The Spirit of Assisi? The year of worshiping with Muslims, Jєωs, Protestants or Pagans? After all, this is the "faith" that the Church has been promulgating since the new "springtime" of Vatican II.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2011, 05:04:05 PM »

The year of the Sedevacantist movement, more like it.

If Fellay crumbles, guess where many will go , those that are are traditional and true to the Faith. Even if they stay in their SSPX chapels, many priests will become independent and thus not part of the Conciliar Church.

So in a way, yes, Ratzinger is right. It will be the Year of Faith, as in many peoples faiths will be strengthened, and many others may unfortunately apostasize and leave any semblance of Catholicism all together. Sad sad.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:08:55 PM »

Excellent points everyone. What I find really freightening is when Benedict says it will "follow in the footsteps of John Paul II and Paul VI". That alone tells you it will be modernist.

ManofGosh · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:36:20 PM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

The year of the Sedevacantist movement, more like it.

If Fellay crumbles, guess where many will go , those that are are traditional and true to the Faith. Even if they stay in their SSPX chapels, many priests will become independent and thus not part of the Conciliar Church.

So in a way, yes, Ratzinger is right. It will be the Year of Faith, as in many peoples faiths will be strengthened, and many others may unfortunately apostasize and leave any semblance of Catholicism all together. Sad sad.

Yes your right, they would be just like the sede's and not part of the Conciliar Church, that is sad. I think it better to pray for and convince the Conciliar Church of it's errors, then to leave it at the will of the devil. I believe in the Catholic dogmas of Hope, prayer, and God's awesome power of conversion.

Gregory I · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2011, 01:32:50 AM »

This could be it though Folks, I pray, I hope...but not too much...

La Profezia Degno Pastore (The Worthy Shepherd Prophecy)

By Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno, 14th Century

"One from beyond the mountains shall become the Vicar Of God. Religious and clerics shall take part in this change.
Outside the true path, there will be only disreputable men; I shrug my shoulders when the Bark of Peter is in danger and there is no one to lend it help...The schismatic shall fall into the scorn of the Italian faithful..." By about twelve years shall the millennium have passed [2012 A.D.] when the resplendent mantle of legitimate power shall emerge from the shadows where it was being kept by the schism. And beyond harm from the one [the usurper antipope] who is blocking the door of salvation, for his deceitful schism shall have come to an end. And the mass of the faithful shall attach itself to the worthy Shepherd, who shall extricate each one from error and restore to the Church its beauty. He shall renew it."
(Prophecy of *Blessed Tomasuccio de Foligno, Profezie, 14th Century)

Please God, we have had enough...

Mea Culpa...

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2011, 03:30:51 PM »

Quote from: ManofGosh

Quote from: PartyIsOver221
The year of the Sedevacantist movement, more like it.

If Fellay crumbles, guess where many will go , those that are are traditional and true to the Faith. Even if they stay in their SSPX chapels, many priests will become independent and thus not part of the Conciliar Church.

So in a way, yes, Ratzinger is right. It will be the Year of Faith, as in many peoples faiths will be strengthened, and many others may unfortunately apostasize and leave any semblance of Catholicism all together. Sad sad.

Yes your right, they would be just like the sede's and not part of the Conciliar Church, that is sad. I think it better to pray for and convince the Conciliar Church of it's errors, then to leave it at the will of the devil. I believe in the Catholic dogmas of Hope, prayer, and God's awesome power of conversion.

So hold on, you're saying the Pope needs to convert? Convert from what? Isn't he already Catholic in your mind? And do you realize that arguing with the Roman Pontiff on matters of faith and morals places you in hell??

ManofGosh, the sedevacantists (CMRI, SSPV, independent chapels, etc etc) haven't left the Catholic Church. It is quite the other way around, though through your perspective you will not see it, but that the Conciliarists have left the Catholic Church.

ManofGosh · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2011, 05:57:30 PM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

Quote from: ManofGosh
Quote from: PartyIsOver221
The year of the Sedevacantist movement, more like it.

If Fellay crumbles, guess where many will go , those that are are traditional and true to the Faith. Even if they stay in their SSPX chapels, many priests will become independent and thus not part of the Conciliar Church.

So in a way, yes, Ratzinger is right. It will be the Year of Faith, as in many peoples faiths will be strengthened, and many others may unfortunately apostasize and leave any semblance of Catholicism all together. Sad sad.

Yes your right, they would be just like the sede's and not part of the Conciliar Church, that is sad. I think it better to pray for and convince the Conciliar Church of it's errors, then to leave it at the will of the devil. I believe in the Catholic dogmas of Hope, prayer, and God's awesome power of conversion.

So hold on, you're saying the Pope needs to convert? Convert from what? Isn't he already Catholic in your mind? And do you realize that arguing with the Roman Pontiff on matters of faith and morals places you in hell??

ManofGosh, the sedevacantists (CMRI, SSPV, independent chapels, etc etc) haven't left the Catholic Church. It is quite the other way around, though through your perspective you will not see it, but that the Conciliarists have left the Catholic Church.

First let me start with the straw men.

you're saying the Pope needs to convert? Yes

Convert from what? a particular religion, faith, or belief as the word convert implies. In this case it would be a belief since the current Pope was indeed Baptised Catholic.

Isn't he already Catholic in your mind? Sure, just like all Popes who were Baptised (Unless you don't believe being Baptised makes you part of the Church), but this does not mean he's not in error.

And do you realize that arguing with the Roman Pontiff on matters of faith and morals places you in hell?? Our Lord says, "Judge not, Lest thy be judged". It would be good for you to practice what you preach. The Catholic way is of Charity, not condemning to Hell. Not thinking I am without blemish, but out of Love for a Soul that God made and prefers to be in Heaven with Him. Our Lord says, "pray for thy enemies", not abandon them to their own devise.

Condenming people to hell does not show brotherly love, nor does name calling. Not being worried about the Salvation of each and every soul God created, not even being willing to pray for them, does not show Hope or Faith in God's awesome power.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:56:25 PM »

OK, I'm not sure if I will reply to you because many a straw men were laid upon me. 1. I'm uncharitable by calling out someone's heresy (which is what separates one from the Church, might I add).

2. I need to love people more. Huh? Please search my posts up, and I don't think I'm a "damn you all to hell" type of Catholic. I used to be a Jєω, so I know both sides of the sect vs Catholic Church spectrum. And I know which side is saved and which side isn't.

3.